[cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good
It doesn't really matter that much if oil is biotic or abiotic in the end. Or even if there is a lot of abiotic oil. What matters is the cost of extraction. It is simple supply and demand. So the Peak Oil theory still holds true. Mike Ruppert doesn't own the Peak Oil theory by the way. He is just one of many people who believe it still holds true. It is not really a belief in Peak Oil. It is more a belief that costs are determined largely by supply and demand. Abiotic oil is not coming in cheap enough and fast enough to counteract the huge increasing demand for oil. So the cost of oil keeps going up. --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Arlene Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who believes that there isn't enough abiotic oil in Russia, needs to read the 19th edtion. It's free on my Web site for everyone in this listserv. That's because all my editions are free to the people who belong to this listserv. The 19th doesn't even need a password to access. Peace, Arlene Johnsom Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net Click on the 4th icon, the one that says Magazine to access my e- zine and then scroll down till you see #19. -Original Message- From: tents444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 22, 2006 2:38 AM To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good Bob, I never paid much attention to the vreeland stuff. I ignore most conspiracy theory stuff because I know it would take all my time to thoroughly investigate it and come to a reasonable conclusion. I doubt many people have spent enough time either. So most of us take it all with a grain of salt. So when you list this and that concerning a multitude of issues and try to string them together into some conclusion, then I pretty much ignore it. Because investigating just one part of your theories would take a very long time. So because of the multitude of facts you string together, for that alone I don't believe you are an expert, or that your conclusions are necessarily true. You are just one more person with an opinion. But you didn't address my point about abiotic oil and that Peak Oil theory still remains true even with the existence of abiotic (not from biological sources) oil. As far as I know no one has found a way to pull up enough deep abiotic oil at a reasonable price to make a real dent in the huge demand for oil. So Peak Oil pricing is happening now. It just costs too much to pull up oil from deep levels. And it isn't refilling oil reservoirs fast enough to make a real dent in the huge demand for oil. And everyone needs to read part 2 of Mike Ruppert's article from Venezuela describing the incredible harassment he has endured: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36033 The full Mike Ruppert article from Venezuela is here: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtm l The Rense.com page has only the first part of the article: http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm eco --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit muckblit@ wrote: As for all the personal infighting crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know ...that it's crap, because it's all citations from publicly known Ruppert history, from his own mouth and writings. But you kill the messenger, ignore specifics. Unsurprisingly you add that you are wrong on many other topics as well, failing to cite specifics on any of those knee-jerk subliminally cloned positions. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, tents444 tents444@ wrote: --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Mike wrote a piece that is on the rense.com website about bidding farewell to america. That is a great article. Here is the URL: http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm I agree with nearly all of it. As for all the personal infighting crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know about that stuff, since I don't know Mike Ruppert personally. I hope his website stays up: http://www.fromthewilderness.com It has a lot of good info. I agree with the peak oil theory. It is already happening. And abiotic oil is too deep and too inaccessible right now to make much difference. Even when some abiotic oil bubbles up to become accessible it is not doing so in a great enough way to offset the huge demand for oil. So the peak oil theory still holds true. Peak Oil is nothing more than the truth of supply and demand setting prices. And abiotic oil deep in the earth costs too much to bring up right now. I disagree that the USA facilitated 9-11. But that is only an opinion. I think it is more likely that the hijackers picked the day of the simulated hijackings to pull off the real thing. Brilliant on their part. This caused the delay of intercepting aircraft since they thought
[cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good
Bob, I never paid much attention to the vreeland stuff. I ignore most conspiracy theory stuff because I know it would take all my time to thoroughly investigate it and come to a reasonable conclusion. I doubt many people have spent enough time either. So most of us take it all with a grain of salt. So when you list this and that concerning a multitude of issues and try to string them together into some conclusion, then I pretty much ignore it. Because investigating just one part of your theories would take a very long time. So because of the multitude of facts you string together, for that alone I don't believe you are an expert, or that your conclusions are necessarily true. You are just one more person with an opinion. But you didn't address my point about abiotic oil and that Peak Oil theory still remains true even with the existence of abiotic (not from biological sources) oil. As far as I know no one has found a way to pull up enough deep abiotic oil at a reasonable price to make a real dent in the huge demand for oil. So Peak Oil pricing is happening now. It just costs too much to pull up oil from deep levels. And it isn't refilling oil reservoirs fast enough to make a real dent in the huge demand for oil. And everyone needs to read part 2 of Mike Ruppert's article from Venezuela describing the incredible harassment he has endured: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/36033 The full Mike Ruppert article from Venezuela is here: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/081606_burning_bridge.shtml The Rense.com page has only the first part of the article: http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm eco --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, muckblit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for all the personal infighting crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know ...that it's crap, because it's all citations from publicly known Ruppert history, from his own mouth and writings. But you kill the messenger, ignore specifics. Unsurprisingly you add that you are wrong on many other topics as well, failing to cite specifics on any of those knee-jerk subliminally cloned positions. -Bob --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, tents444 tents444@ wrote: --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban mcurb@ wrote: Mike wrote a piece that is on the rense.com website about bidding farewell to america. That is a great article. Here is the URL: http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm I agree with nearly all of it. As for all the personal infighting crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know about that stuff, since I don't know Mike Ruppert personally. I hope his website stays up: http://www.fromthewilderness.com It has a lot of good info. I agree with the peak oil theory. It is already happening. And abiotic oil is too deep and too inaccessible right now to make much difference. Even when some abiotic oil bubbles up to become accessible it is not doing so in a great enough way to offset the huge demand for oil. So the peak oil theory still holds true. Peak Oil is nothing more than the truth of supply and demand setting prices. And abiotic oil deep in the earth costs too much to bring up right now. I disagree that the USA facilitated 9-11. But that is only an opinion. I think it is more likely that the hijackers picked the day of the simulated hijackings to pull off the real thing. Brilliant on their part. This caused the delay of intercepting aircraft since they thought there was a simulated hijacking going on. Same as the terrorist attacks in London. The bombers picked the day of a simulated terrorist attack scenario that the authorities were doing that day. So the USA and Britain facilitated the terrorist attacks due to their stupidity. We can all agree on their stupidity can't we? :) My favorite paragraph from Mike Ruppert's article: QUOTE: My permanent exodus from the US was actually ordained thirty years -- to the month -- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006. It was thirty years ago that my then-fiance, a career contract agent for the CIA, disclosed to me that her people were interested in giving a major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved with her anti-terror operations that involved overlooking (i.e. protecting) large drug shipments coming in while facilitating the movement of large quantities of firearms going out. I refused to compromise my ethics as a police officer and -- as I wrote on page 6 of Crossing the Rubicon - that has determined the course of my life ever since. UNQUOTE. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http
[cia-drugs] Re: ruppert to leave the USA for good
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, mark urban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike wrote a piece that is on the rense.com website about bidding farewell to america. That is a great article. Here is the URL: http://www.rense.com/general73/ces.htm I agree with nearly all of it. As for all the personal infighting crap in the replies here, I wouldn't know about that stuff, since I don't know Mike Ruppert personally. I hope his website stays up: http://www.fromthewilderness.com It has a lot of good info. I agree with the peak oil theory. It is already happening. And abiotic oil is too deep and too inaccessible right now to make much difference. Even when some abiotic oil bubbles up to become accessible it is not doing so in a great enough way to offset the huge demand for oil. So the peak oil theory still holds true. Peak Oil is nothing more than the truth of supply and demand setting prices. And abiotic oil deep in the earth costs too much to bring up right now. I disagree that the USA facilitated 9-11. But that is only an opinion. I think it is more likely that the hijackers picked the day of the simulated hijackings to pull off the real thing. Brilliant on their part. This caused the delay of intercepting aircraft since they thought there was a simulated hijacking going on. Same as the terrorist attacks in London. The bombers picked the day of a simulated terrorist attack scenario that the authorities were doing that day. So the USA and Britain facilitated the terrorist attacks due to their stupidity. We can all agree on their stupidity can't we? :) My favorite paragraph from Mike Ruppert's article: QUOTE: My permanent exodus from the US was actually ordained thirty years -- to the month -- before I left for good on July 18th, 2006. It was thirty years ago that my then-fiance, a career contract agent for the CIA, disclosed to me that her people were interested in giving a major boost to my career with LAPD if I would become involved with her anti-terror operations that involved overlooking (i.e. protecting) large drug shipments coming in while facilitating the movement of large quantities of firearms going out. I refused to compromise my ethics as a police officer and -- as I wrote on page 6 of Crossing the Rubicon - that has determined the course of my life ever since. UNQUOTE. Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[cia-drugs] Re: Greg Palast. Assassination of Hugo Chávez. Big Oil corporatists.
The Brazil system works because for years now new cars sold there must accept ethanol fuel. The same system would work here if new cars were required to safely accept ethanol fuel. It would create a huge market for ethanol fuels. The economies of scale cause the ethanol fuel to be cheaper than gasoline fuels. And that is true no matter how it is calculated. The fair way to compare is in miles per dollar of fuel, not in miles per gallon. It isn't true now because many new American cars can't safely accept 100% ethanol or methanol fuel. So the market for the fuel isn't large enough to keep the price competitive, and to make the fuel widely available. When all new cars are required to accept ethanol fuel, then it soon costs nothing to make the changes required for those cars, because of the economies of scale involved. The changes are minor when designed into the car, and put in during the initial factory build of the new car. eco man http://corporatism.tripod.com - Does anyone remember my mentioning how we had to pay nearly $1,000 to repair the car because of ethanol in fuel? Arlene Johnson Publisher/Author http://www.truedemocracy.net -Original Message- From: Eco Man Sent: Jul 4, 2006 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], apfn- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cia-drugs] Greg Palast. Assassination of Hugo Chávez. Big Oil corporatists. More on who is really in charge. Dallas and Houston are the Big Oil puppet masters manipulating the Pat Robertson Armageddonists, the Israeli lobby, and the war industries (which includes the U.S. prison industrial complex). Just follow the oil money. My favorite quote from the book excerpt: The public, American public included, does not have to remain hostage to the Saudi-Houston cartel. We could be following Brazil's successful ethanol model instead. And we could add hemp stalks to the biomass used to produce ethanol and methanol. Hempahol for Victory! ---web page begins The Assassination of Hugo Chávez. Excerpt from Greg Palast's new book Armed Madhouse. http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1764 snip--- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/vseplB/TM ~- Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ Please let us stay on topic and be civil. OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
