Lord, have mercy.

Peace, 
K


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From: "Barbara J. Sibold" <b.j.sibold@web.de>
Date: September 30, 2007 4:41:46 AM PDT
To: Bob D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mark urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert A. Millegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Antisemitism on cia-drugs

Bob, I hoped you would at least partly understand what I wrote. And yes I trusted you.

Today I wrote to Yahoo Groups:

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I need your help - concerning a  privacy issue.

I am a member of political-research but this concerns cia-drugs, where I am not a member anymore for quite some time now.

The owner of the group cia-drugs not long ago  forwarded a private mail and put my complete email address on  his group a couple of days ago. Without getting my permission. Ditto is he aware that I do not like to appear on his list with my private name, which unfortunately I used a couple of years ago, but changed later. He forwarded the private exchange without my permission including my private email address.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/41703

search: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is the only email-address given completely as if it were deliberately added later.

Now, my complete address over here in Germany has been forwarded by member muckblit (Bob Dodds)  from another private exchange:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/41765


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It was automatically attached to my private mail. Unfortunately I trusted him.  I never in any way gave both the list owner or the member muckblit (Bob Dodds) a permission to pass on my message, much less my complete private details.

Your help would be appreciated. Do I have to accept this according to US law? Do I have to contact a lawyer? Look for another place to life?

The list owner Kris Milligan slanders one of his former anonymous group members and now the owner of his own group: political research for quite some time now.

Starting out with fast conclusions he calls “research”, he decided to propagate that the anonymous owner of political-research is Chip Berlet. He is pushing it into a running gag for quite some time now. Merging as it feels to me two of his perceived enemies into one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Berlet
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-research/.

I am aware, I should not have trusted the owner of cia-drugs Kris Milligan, and the owner of political-research warned me, but do I have to live with my complete German address and my private email on his list?

Aren’t there basic privacy laws? Do I have to contact a lawyer?
I’d appreciate your help.


Bob D schrieb:
Lie of apartheid, "lie of the holocaust", Chipper-Shredder knows that as long as he was tolerated at cia-drugs, our home page said, and had said for fifteen years or so, "holocaust deniers need not apply", as far as deniers of Jewish Holocaust or of Palestinian Apartheid or of Platonic-Darwinist atrocities in general or in policy fodder for new Nuremburg monsters hatching in Washington every day. Oh my, narked holding, are we?

I don't know why this was sent to me in particular, either, but whoever the targeted strawman author is(I don't recognize the content from cia-drugs), the strawman skips from 19th century to post-WW2, from 19th century Jews in Palestine who were good neighbors, not bulldozing or bombing their neighbors, to an artificially narrow window on bad neighbor policy affecting the indigenous population of Palestine.

By skipping fifty years of history the author can speculate as conclusion, internet propaganda mill style, that the indigenous Jews and zionist immigrants treated indigenous Palestinians the same way during for half a century. If arab scholar Rashid Kalidi discovers significant differences between the way the British colonialist military presence in Palestine and their zionist trojan horse treated Palestinians, and the good neighbor policy of indigenous Jews, present themselves to Palestinians at home and abroad, I would like to look at the censored fifty years of history myself.

Reading along a broad spectrum from Rashid Khalidi to Uri Avnery and Jimmy Carter to a still rabid zionist Barry Chamish, I find considerable documentation of a zionist cult of bad neighbor policy imported to Palestine long before Sam and Prescott Bush discovered Adolf Hitler in the 1920's, which shows that Palestinian Apartheid pre-dated the Jewish Holocaust by decades.

The Jewish Holocaust makes an obvious and ironic contrast with Palestinian Apartheid, that ironic juxtaposition amplified and augmented by the entire history of bad neighbor policy toward Jews in many countries, not just in Germany for a few years in the 20th century. Count Egon Corti's history of the Rothschild family mentions that the Jews in pre-Germany German speaking states were not allowed equal rights. Only a blind cult within the Jewish population could fail to recognize the hypocrisy of Palestinian Apartheid. Even a xenophobic zionist like Barry Chamish can document the Jewish nazi cult more dangerous than Prescott Bush's al-CIA-duh muslim brotherhood SS Arab Legion under command of an SS General also known as the Grand Mufti.

Saddam Hussein derived from the Grand Mufti and Prescott Bush, not the British al-CIA-duh faction of Osama bin Laden, of the bin Laden family which Disneyfied Mecca, which is political islamist, not secular dictatorship in Prescott Bush's Hitler factory mold which Prescott Bush brought home from Germany, fully un-reconstructed, then replicating the Bush's Hitler model in Iran, Guatemala, Indonesia, Greece, Argentina, Chile, Coup2K.

"We always lose", said CIA director William Colby to Ralph McGehee. David Levy explains why the Plato-Darwin racist utopia model of Prescott Bush's little Platonic Hitler factory always fails. Darwinist might-makes-right racist colonialist propaganda is pseudo-science based on popular British cartoons of the 19th century. Specific British scientists including Darwin based superstitions, in turn basing propaganda based on pseudo-science, on Punch magazine cartoon ideas like,"Irish are chimps...evolutionary dead-ends". Lately we suffer at the policy end of the same sewer pipe of Bush racist platonic utopianism as excuse for the kind of looting we saw in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina--

"What we are doing is capital transfer to those who are (Plato-Hitler-Darwinistically) higher, tighter and righter -GHWB"

Hence opening the MRGO gate, lighting two righteous oil drums on fire, turning back 700 out of 1000 airboat volunteers by denying support, sending 40,000 troops to guard 5000 looters, skimming and fund-raising from the contract to build 11,000 trailers for the skim loot and abandoning the trailers in a field in Arkansas. 911 Lebanese and Pak-Pashtun heroin smugglers have seen their respective Bekaa Valley and Afghan poppy fields liberated pro quid quo by their Pan Am 103 and Air America 911 plane crash partners, US poppy crusaders of Prescott Bush's Little Hitler factory.

"Little inconsistencies are the hobgoblins of small minds" -Thomas Hobbes, in a work coincidentally and perhaps a little inconsistently titled Leviathan, if not also known as Eisenhower's farewell speech warning's military-industrial leviathan.

-Bob

----- Original Message ----
From: Sean McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Barbara J. Sibold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; mark urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; muckblit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:24:17 AM
Subject: Re: Antisemitism on cia-drugs

Well, I don't know the full context in which this discussion is occurring, but I would classify a statement like the one below about the Holocaust as hardcore antisemitic.  It would never make it on to political-research because antisemitism of any kind makes it impossible to discuss rationally extremely important issues with regard to the effect of the Israeli government and the Israel lobby (NOT "the Jews") on American foreign policy.  Sometimes I wonder how many of the hardcore antisemitic posts on the net are the work of agents provocateurs who are attempting to shut down all rational discussion of Israeli and Jewish issues.  It's a highly effective technique in most venues.

"Barbara J. Sibold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, I am relapsing back into communications addiction ...

I had a lock at the latest mails on cia-drugs. Pink booties and the Holocaust:

Lady in Pink and ... you choose ...

"Whew! What a long thread. So many issues to explain here. While it is true that the number of Jews who lived in Palestine long before WW II did get along with the indigenous people, i.e. Palestinians, when the lie of the Holocaust caused everyone to feel sooooo sorry for the poor Jews that they were allowed to migrate in mass to this land that God gave to the seed of Abraham, is when the problem began, because these Jews, who are not Abraham's seed at all wanted ALL the land, not just what Balfour granted them in the declaration that he signed (letter) in 1917. You can read that letter in my 18th edition."

A statement like this I would receive a comment by Sean. You watch for me what happens. Vig - seems a bit attracted to the story.

Let me comment on this. To comment on any stupidity of Pink lady utters -----  would take us too far.


"The Dead Sea (Hebrew: יָם הַ‏‏מֶ‏ּ‏לַ‏ח‎, Yām Ham-Melaḥ, "Sea of Salt"; Arabic: ألبَحْر ألمَيّت, al-Baḥrᵘ l-Mayyitⁱ, "Dead Sea")"

Dear Vig,

shouldn't we question a statement in the first passage centrally? I mean if we start out that ideologically, couldn't it be the rest of the tale has a strong fictional tendency?

I haven't read it all, but Dead Sea, which means history and latest scientific studies triggers mainly SALT for me.

Barbara


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