Thanks for the clarification Andrew; sorry I didn't. I have created a new case 
for this, and will begin work shortly:

SRX091001600015 "[MS-ADTS] servicePrincipalName nTSecurityDescriptor 
constraints"

I will look into object security / impersonation, including all of the below 
(with first effort on servicePrincipalName, of course), and get back to you as 
soon as I can. My first thought is that the Windows DS Agent simply 
impersonates 'SYSTEM' - but as you noted, undocumented (which probably 
classifies this as a behavior note).

[MS-ADTS]
3.1.1.5.3.1.1 Validated Writes
3.1.1.5.3.1.1.1 Member
3.1.1.5.3.1.1.2 dNSHostName
3.1.1.5.3.1.1.3 msDS-AdditionalDnsHostName
3.1.1.5.3.1.1.4 servicePrincipalName
3.1.1.5.3.1.1.5 msDS-Behavior-Version

Regards,
Bill Wesse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Bartlett [mailto:abart...@samba.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:52 AM
To: Bill Wesse
Cc: p...@tridgell.net; cifs-proto...@samba.org; Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
Subject: RE: [cifs-protocol] Please clarify LSA and OsVersion behaviour in 
MS-NRPC (SRX090727600015)

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:22 +0000, Bill Wesse wrote: 
> Good morning Andrew - yes, NetrLogonGetDomainInfo bypasses the 
> servicePrincipalName constraints (as Hongwei noted). This applies to Windows 
> 2003/2003 R2, and was fixed in Windows 2008 and beyond.
> 
> This is currently a bug against Windows 2003, but no hotfix has yet been 
> produced. I will be glad to alert you to when this occurs.
> 
> Here is the response Hongwei provided Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:40 AM:
> 
> We confirmed that Windows server 2008 and later systems addressed the problem 
> by implementing validation of the DNSHostName and SPN in 
> NetrLogonGetDomainInfo to enforce the same constraints as specified in 
> section 3.1.1.5.3.1.1.2(dNSHostName) and 
> 3.1.1.5.3.1.1.4(servicePrincipalName) in MS-ADTS.

I'm sorry, I must not have been clear in my point:

> Did we determine earlier that these updates occur regardless of the access 
> control on the object (confirmed with AD Dev team, but I don't think it's in 
> the docs).

I refer here to the access control that would normally be imposed by the 
nTSecurityDescriptor and enforced over LDAP.  It is my understanding 
(discussion with Nathan Muggli) that these are done as 'SYSTEM' (not the actual 
workstation account), but I don't recall that being in the doc.

(This isn't a security hole, because you can only update your own record, but 
it's important to note for those doing an ACL implementation).

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett                                http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Samba Developer, Cisco Inc.

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