Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-09 Thread Edgar Olougouna
Layton' Cc: Christopher R. Hertel; p...@tridgell.net; cifs-proto...@samba.org; MSSolve Case Email Subject: RE: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior The pcap format of the capture is fine. I am able to open this in Netmon. I will update you

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-09 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Jeff Layton wrote: : Sounds like a reasonable correction. I will note however that I didn't actually test Win98 or NT. It's rather difficult to find working media for them nowadays since they're not available on MSDN (hint, hint). This capture was done with a win2k8 client. I'll have to take

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-08 Thread Edgar Olougouna
: Christopher R. Hertel; p...@tridgell.net; cifs-proto...@samba.org; MSSolve Case Email Subject: Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:33:56 + Edgar Olougouna edg...@microsoft.com wrote: Jeff, Could you

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-07 Thread Edgar Olougouna
: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior Just an FYI that I filed a technical document issue on this issue and will update you as soon we complete our investigation. I have been researching Windows NT and 2K and passed on my observations

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-07 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Edgar Olougouna wrote: : 3) If it waits indefinitely, does it send more than one echo request? If so, how frequently are they sent? Answer: Echo requests are sent only when the connection has been idle for more than the session timeout. The default session timeout value is 45 seconds in

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-07 Thread Jeff Layton
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:56:17 + Edgar Olougouna edg...@microsoft.com wrote: Jeff, I have been working with the product group on this issue regarding Windows-based CIFS clients' timeout behavior. Please find the answers as follows. Let me know whether you need further clarifications. The

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-07 Thread Edgar Olougouna
: Christopher R. Hertel; p...@tridgell.net; cifs-proto...@samba.org; MSSolve Case Email Subject: Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:56:17 + Edgar Olougouna edg...@microsoft.com wrote: Jeff, I have been working

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-03 Thread Jeff Layton
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0600 Christopher R. Hertel c...@samba.org wrote: [...] Probably needs two tests. One to see what happens if the (single) connection is lost, and another to see what happens if a single operation takes a very, very long time to complete (as you describe). I

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-03 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Jeff, Other than the shutdown in less than 30 seconds, the behavior you're describing is consistent with what's in the doc. From the earlier notes, the base timeout value is 45 seconds. That value is adjusted based upon the various factors. I described some of those in an earlier e'mail and

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-03 Thread Edgar Olougouna
[mailto:c...@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 4:09 PM To: Jeff Layton Cc: Edgar Olougouna; p...@tridgell.net; cifs-proto...@samba.org; MSSolve Case Email Subject: Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior Below... Jeff Layton

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-02 Thread Jeff Layton
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:08:32 -0600 Christopher R. Hertel c...@samba.org wrote: Below... [...] In any case, this may all be a matter of opinion since the spec doesn't really spell it out. It is of concern however -- it can take a VERY long time for some reads or writes to complete.

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Jeff Layton wrote: : Yes, this is probably stretching the definition of protocol clarification, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask... :) Not at all. Keep in mind that I worked with Microsoft to get these docs out, so I know how important such details are to them, as well as third party

Re: [cifs-protocol] [REG: 110120160951867] Requesting clarification of CIFS client timeout behavior

2010-12-01 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Below... Jeff Layton wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 14:44:44 -0600 Christopher R. Hertel c...@samba.org wrote: Jeff Layton wrote: : Yes, this is probably stretching the definition of protocol clarification, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask... :) Not at all. Keep in mind that I worked