Re: [Cin] Shortcuts

2020-03-08 Thread Igor BEGHETTO 

GG and Andrew, thank you so much!
I hadn't written that my Operating System is Ubuntu 16.04, sorry.
I followed GG's instruction, installing "libtool" by synaptic and now it 
works. GG, thanks thanks thanks.


IgorBeg


Il 08/03/2020 16.21, Phyllis Smith ha scritto:

Igor: (Andrew said it)
Recently, some of the distros have stopped putting libtool in as a 
part of the development group components for installs.
If libtool is not installed on your machine, install it and see fi the 
problem is affected.


apt install libtool

gg


On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:49 AM Igor BEGHETTO > wrote:



> I think it would be better to assign Ctrl+D shortcut for "Delete
last
> track" instead of Ctrl+Shif+D. So, more intuitive, you have
Shift+D to
> "Delete First track", and Ctrl+D to "Delete Last track": Shift
is the
> key up (then first), and Ctrl is the key down (then last) in the
> keyboard.
>> I will see about changing this as you suggested.  It would be
better.
Thanks to take it in consideration.

About Shortcuts in general.
I understand you (Phyllis), and I know that it is not easy to
change the
consolidate Shortcuts used from old cinelerra's users but it would be
good if CinelerraGG would use some shortcuts like others NLE (Adobe
Premiere, Lightworks, Kdenlive. Sam and Olaf know for AVID and
DaVinciResolve, I think). "J-K-L" for
PlayBackward-Stop-PlayForward, "i"
& "o" for InPoint and OutPoint are standard shortcut.So, new users
would
be incentivated to change (or less) their NLE.
Another example may be, navigate between Labels (Ctrl) or Keyframes
(Shift) or Edits (Alt) with the LeftArrow and RightArrow because
it is
more intuitive, I think.
If you want I can do a lists for my preferences shortcuts but you
already know. ;-)
Thanks.

IgorBeg


PS:
I am not able to compile CinelerraGG since 2020029 version. Can
You help
me, please?
I added the compressed log file.
Thank you.
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Re: [Cin] Shortcuts

2020-03-08 Thread Phyllis Smith 
Igor: (Andrew said it)
Recently, some of the distros have stopped putting libtool in as a part of
the development group components for installs.
If libtool is not installed on your machine, install it and see fi the
problem is affected.

apt install libtool

gg


On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 7:49 AM Igor BEGHETTO  wrote:

>
> > I think it would be better to assign Ctrl+D shortcut for "Delete last
> > track" instead of Ctrl+Shif+D. So, more intuitive, you have Shift+D to
> > "Delete First track", and Ctrl+D to "Delete Last track": Shift is the
> > key up (then first), and Ctrl is the key down (then last) in the
> > keyboard.
> >> I will see about changing this as you suggested.  It would be better.
> Thanks to take it in consideration.
>
> About Shortcuts in general.
> I understand you (Phyllis), and I know that it is not easy to change the
> consolidate Shortcuts used from old cinelerra's users but it would be
> good if CinelerraGG would use some shortcuts like others NLE (Adobe
> Premiere, Lightworks, Kdenlive. Sam and Olaf know for AVID and
> DaVinciResolve, I think). "J-K-L" for PlayBackward-Stop-PlayForward, "i"
> & "o" for InPoint and OutPoint are standard shortcut.So, new users would
> be incentivated to change (or less) their NLE.
> Another example may be, navigate between Labels (Ctrl) or Keyframes
> (Shift) or Edits (Alt) with the LeftArrow and RightArrow because it is
> more intuitive, I think.
> If you want I can do a lists for my preferences shortcuts but you
> already know. ;-)
> Thanks.
>
> IgorBeg
>
>
> PS:
> I am not able to compile CinelerraGG since 2020029 version. Can You help
> me, please?
> I added the compressed log file.
> Thank you.
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Re: [Cin] Shortcuts

2020-03-08 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu 
В сообщении от Sunday 08 March 2020 16:51:10 Igor BEGHETTO написал(а):
> 
> > I think it would be better to assign Ctrl+D shortcut for "Delete last 
> > track" instead of Ctrl+Shif+D. So, more intuitive, you have Shift+D to 
> > "Delete First track", and Ctrl+D to "Delete Last track": Shift is the 
> > key up (then first), and Ctrl is the key down (then last) in the 
> > keyboard.
> >> I will see about changing this as you suggested.  It would be better. 
> Thanks to take it in consideration.
> 
> About Shortcuts in general.
> I understand you (Phyllis), and I know that it is not easy to change the 
> consolidate Shortcuts used from old cinelerra's users but it would be 
> good if CinelerraGG would use some shortcuts like others NLE (Adobe 
> Premiere, Lightworks, Kdenlive. Sam and Olaf know for AVID and 
> DaVinciResolve, I think). "J-K-L" for PlayBackward-Stop-PlayForward, "i" 
> & "o" for InPoint and OutPoint are standard shortcut.So, new users would 
> be incentivated to change (or less) their NLE.
> Another example may be, navigate between Labels (Ctrl) or Keyframes 
> (Shift) or Edits (Alt) with the LeftArrow and RightArrow because it is 
> more intuitive, I think.
> If you want I can do a lists for my preferences shortcuts but you 
> already know. ;-)
> Thanks.
> 
> IgorBeg
> 
> 
> PS:
> I am not able to compile CinelerraGG since 2020029 version. Can You help 
> me, please?
> I added the compressed log file.
> Thank you.
> 

I think mjpegtools started to fail their autoconf phase:

configure.ac:73: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
  If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
  See the Autoconf documentation.

[...]

make[4]: Entering directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0'
  CC   sndfile-metadata-set.o
Making all in src
Making all in utils
make[5]: Entering directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/libiec61883-1.2.0/src'
/bin/bash ../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. 
-I/usr/local/include
-I/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/../thirdparty/libraw1394-2.1.2/.
  -MT cip.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/cip.Tpo -c -o cip.lo cip.c
make[5]: Entering directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/utils'
gcc: warning: 
/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/../thirdparty/libogg-1.3.4/src/.libs/libogg.a:
 linker input file unused because linking not done
Making all in mmxsse
  CC   ogg_helper.lo
make[6]: Entering directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/utils/mmxsse'
/bin/bash: LIBTOOL@: command not found
Makefile:359: recipe for target 'build_sub22_mests.lo' failed
make[6]: *** [build_sub22_mests.lo] Error 127
make[6]: Leaving directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/utils/mmxsse'
Makefile:505: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0/utils'
Makefile:499: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0'
Makefile:405: recipe for target 'all' failed
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/mjpegtools-2.1.0'
Makefile:340: recipe for target 
'/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/../thirdparty/build/mjpegtools.built'
 failed
make[2]: *** 
[/home/charlie/cin-repository-clone/cinelerra5_20200229/cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/../thirdparty/build/mjpegtools.built]
 Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs

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Just searched for Error string in log, while searching for 'failed' was 
probably faster ..

WHY it started to fail I don't know .. may be autotools were updated on your 
host? 
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Re: [Cin] shortcut for going trough keyframes

2020-03-08 Thread Igor BEGHETTO 

Sorry Phyllis, I replied in the "Shortcuts" thread. Thanks


Il 07/03/2020 15.46, Phyllis Smith ha scritto:

Hi, Igor,

I "almost" agree with you but then I started using it and decided that 
maybe most people would want them separated because with some plugins 
you can have many, many keyframes and then it takes forever to get to 
an auto marker.  We added Alt-a and Ctrl-Alt-a for Next auto and 
Previous keyframe.  I guess the auto markers are really keyframes and 
are called that in many places.

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