Hi, Pierre.
I really appreciate your test and thank you for your reports.
A question: when you activate vdpau, you do it from the terminal o from
Setting --> Preferences --> Performance Tab: Use HW Device?
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> Try to enable/disable Vsync in ... driver's control application
I also had FPS slowdown with X11-OpenGL (nvidia 460M[obile]).
Disabling VSync solves the issue. Thanks Andrew-R and Pierre for the
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> Hi Andrea,
>
> Your last commit has conflicting merge. See lines in .tex
> files. We have to deal with it manually.
> I've made my changes based on your version.
> I can sync our versions again based on your version.
>
No, don't merge my branch into yours. I could no longer sync your
It seems to me to have mixed "push" with "pull" of the various
branches, with the result of having double code in the various "*.tex"
(For example, there are both the "verbatim" and the "longtable" of the
trim.). Perhaps the best thing is to delete the last commits and start
again from what you
@einhander
On page 91 (105) of the pdf, the wrapfigure narrows the text for 3-4
consecutive pages, instead of returning to normal width after the
figure. Is there anything I can do? I can't.
@Phyllis
Do you have an odt from the glossary or does it have to start from scratch?
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I've synchronized my repo with yours, both locally and on the web. Now
I start working on chapter 8. I apologize for the problems I have
created (and still don't understand). I hope they don't happen again.
Il giorno lun 27 mag 2019 alle ore 15:54 Andrea paz
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> It seems
Looks like I can make it work too! (although I don't know how useful
it is). Thanks Phyllis, good demo for me.
Is there any way to upload y.avi, u.avi and v.avi videos directly to
the Resouces window?
Il giorno dom 2 giu 2019 alle ore 17:36 Phyllis Smith
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> Demo of using Cinelerra
I use an old nvidia, the gtx 460M for notebooks, with proprietary
legacy drivers, called 390.xx.
The last update of the kernel and its nvidia drivers was yesterday,
and CinnGG already installed did not give errors.
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Hi einhander.
Add chapter 8.
The glossary odt has many entries and long descriptions (good work
Phyllis!). Can you make a separate file to include as you do with
chapters, instead of searching for words in the text and entering the
relevant entry just below? And if you can do so, you can enter
Add glossary.
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I want to be the first to congratulate for the new Cakewalk theme.
At first glance it looks beautiful and fancy; you can read very well
and with precision; the colors are beautiful and restful for the view;
the icons are clear and beautiful. What more can I say: thank you very
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Hi, Olaf.
If I can make a small request based on my taste: put a small frame to
the plugins to distinguish the various bars and not have a homogeneous
mass as you see in the image:
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In the last release I have the following errors (on terminal) at startup:
BC_Signals::x_error_handler: error_code=8 opcode=154,31 id=0x111
BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
BC_Signals::x_error_handler: error_code=172 opcode=154,26 id=0x342
GLXBadDrawable
BC_Signals::x_error_handler:
Hi,
@ einhander
I'm progressing slowly with chapter 9 (plugins.odt) [Cursed is he who
stretched it out ;-)]. I have the problem of the big tables of
Libreoffice Writer to import in latex (in Sketcher and Titler
sections). How should this be done? I have not found any information
about this.
I read the Спицын Андрей's script and the Phyllis' answer:
https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2019-May/000754.html
I was wondering if it was possible to include in ShellCmd some ffmpeg
filters that do not work in CinnGG.
The commands are as follows:
EXTRACTPLANES
ffmpeg -i video.avi
With reference to issue 242, I'm still crashing.
cinelerra_4724.tar.gz
Description: application/gzip
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. Is there a way to split the push into smaller parts?
My intenet connection is slow, very slow; but stable.
Il giorno mar 11 giu 2019 alle ore 11:37 Андрей Спицын
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>
> > the remote end hung up unexpectedly
>
> Looks like GH or internet connection problems.
>
>
> вт, 11 июн. 2
Add chapter 9.
There are several problems I bring back here and others I've put on
the \todo list:
1- I wrote a footnote to the "Native Video Effects" section. Since
this title also appears as a header of the right pages, the footnote
count goes up all the time.
2- I wrote the long list of
It's probably just a connection problem. Uploading some images via web
interface and then, for trial, go back to using git push leads to
finish the process without hung up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6DmHjZhXo0
>From 2:20 to 4:05
I summarize briefly because it is in Italian.
Compare "old" concept software (Kdenlive) that is heavy and limited in
playback with "new" concept software (Olive). You can see that even if
you add more effects and go back and forth,
I installed Cuda on my arch. To verify the success of the installation
I tried to compile one of the samples (deviceQuery). I get the
following error:
[root@archpaz paz]# cd /home/paz/cuda/
[root@archpaz cuda]# make
/opt/cuda/bin/nvcc -ccbin g++ -I../../common/inc -m64-gencode
> GG says executing the following lines does help:
>
> export PATH=/usr/local/cuda-10.1/bin${PATH:+:${PATH}}
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=\
> /usr/local/cuda-10.1/lib64/${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}}
> export MANPATH=/usr/local/cuda/doc/man/${MANPATH:+:${MANPATH}}
>
He keeps giving me the
@IgorBeg.
The subtitles demo is perfect for the forum (you also put the
step-by-step explanations), so I ask for your usual consent to upload
it.
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You are right: Compiling in /opt works well.
In any case, being able to compile "deviceQuery" is not important,
only that I get the same error if I try to compile Cuda in CinGG. Do I
need to put in any particular instructions? (I used --with-cuda). I
have to put the string on:
-I/opt/cuda/include
Hi, IgorB.
I found your shared track mask demo very instructive (as usual) and
would like your permission to upload it to the HowTo forum.
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- My nvidia 460M doesn't support nvenc and in fact trying to render it
makes a mistake (same errors as Pierre).
- F_Mandelbrot does not work:
PluginFVClient::activate() F_mandelbrot
err: Function not implemented
PluginFVClient::process_buffer() F_mandelbrot
err: Operation not permitted
I
Hi,
Add chapter 4.
This part is a little more complicated, so I've made less-than-optimal
decisions.
For example:
- I used "source code listing", I think improperly. But I don't know
how to do it better.
- Figure 4.6 is low resolution, but I couldn't replace it because I
don't have TV streams.
Hi,
I tried to create the table for section 5.7.5 but I don't like the
result very much. Do you have any advice?
I also tried with tables for section 5.8.3 but you need the package
"sidewaystable" to rotate the table and I do not know if you should
add it and how to do it. I left the code that
Add chapter 7.
>
> I noticed that you are using \noindent. That the purpose of use it?
It's just my personal taste: after a list, especially if the following
paragraph is of only one line, I don't like the similar indent of the
last item of the list and of the first line of the following section.
> I will look at that again and see if I can find something better.
Or maybe I should make a png instead? What do you think? Phyllis
>
No, I think to leave the table because it contains more information
than the colored image (as the trim was encoded in CinGG). The
rendering is not beautiful
Hi,
uploaded to github my latest revision of chapter 5 (now it is complete).
- Same Caption error
- How to colorize (red) some words inside the tables of the Shuttle?
PS: good news the Glossary!
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Added chapter 6.
I had problems with git and I could not synchronize our two
repositories. I downloaded yours and updated mine locally. Then I
uploaded it back to git. I hope it's okay now.
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I don't know if it's a bug or my inability:
How do I make the speed and camera/projector Z curve visible on the
timeline? I activate the other curves and see them normally, these
three are not.
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the connection
Everything up-to-date
other error message:
To https://github.com/Andrea-Paz/cin-manual-latex
! [rejected]master -> master (fetch first)
error: failed to push some refs to
'https://github.com/Andrea-Paz/cin-manual-latex'
suggerimento: Updates were rejected because the rem
I only did a quick test, but it's all OK, including ticket 202 of the
sketcher plugin (alpha color). The number of new features and
improvements you bring every month is incredible. Thanks a lot.
Questions:
What are the issue:
"The Sketcher and CriKey plugins had a grab problem but now the
Olivier, thanks from me, too. It is nice to see many translations of the
site. I'd like to travel around the world with russian, arabic and chinese
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Hi, einhander
I installed TexStudio to test it and see if I can learn anything. For
the CinGG manual, I'll follow your instructions: should I use Overleaf
or do it locally? In any case I would like to ask you for the file
with your settings, so you have the same structure on which to work
and do
In the new unified manual, in the Setting chapter (Settings -->
Preferences), there are missing or unclear entries (for me). Does
anyone know them and how to use them?
PLAYBACK A TAB:
- Enable subtitles/captioning
- Labels cells
- TOC Program No
RECORDING TAB:
- Realtime TOC
- DVB Adapter
-
- Voluntarily I only installed libvdpau. The others are probably
dependencies of VLC. I don't think it is needed.
- The performance problems are perhaps due to the change of sources.
This has many heavy plugins. However, I do not understand how to have
more than 100% load on the CPU.
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@Phyllis. I think it is best not to waste time converting all images
into high quality png. It's a job you can do as you convert chapters
to Latex.
@einhander. I have finished chapter 4 of the manual (3, in the
conversion to Latex). Now how to submit it to your review? I'm not
familiar with
@Sam
Thank you very much for saving all the data and the Cinelerra-CV
mailing list. I am very sorry that no one has kept the old website
alive.
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- To compile new releases from source, I use the following ./configure:
./configure --prefix=/usr --with-jobs=8 --without-oss
--with-single-user –with-booby
But I get warnings I don't understand:
[paz@archpaz cinelerra-5.1]$ ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-jobs=8
--without-oss
You're right. I fall for it all the time. As a copy/paste from a
libreoffice document, he sometimes automatically fixes -- in -
For the optimizations of gcc, I only read the following article:
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=GCC-01g-Optimization-Proposed
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> I think it is possible to update only the Nvidia driver on a version of
> Mint that does not offer it but I prefer to wait for the version of Mint
> that will include it.
> Pierre
>
I think the 390.xx (legacy) drivers we both use, no longer add new
features, only maintenance patches. So point
[I'm sorry, I'm kidding :-) ]
The mask tool has become really useful and powerful.
I thank Sam and IgorB for the many inputs and tests; Phyllis for
keeping GG calm [ ;-) ] and everything else; and GG because he is an
incredible coder. CinGG is a great project because you are in charge
of it (not
To thank you for the enormous developments you continue to bring, I
have made a "valgrind" that I hope will be useful.
I've played a little with masks, with Gradient and with Sketcher. In
the latter I caused the freeze with the color picker and then I came
out with CTRL+C causing the creation of a
@Olaf.
Every month I write an email containing LaTeX and Manual in the title
to continue the discussion and translation work with einhander. I
installed the whole package, plus the Greek and Russian languages. Of
course I also installed an editor, that is TexStudio.
It would be nice if you could
I made a new Valgrind.
I still used Vdpau, which gave several errors on the terminal. Anyway
everything OK.
val.tar.gz
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Nice new plugin; thank you. GG is a great coder.
If I understand correctly it is like the normal mask tool but that
traces the contours as the "magic wand" of GIMP. So we're talking
selection masks, not "matte"; right?
It's not very clear to me how the "Scale" works.
I have to request some
Yes, I think so, too.
PS: openFX is at the base of Nuke; I don't think it is asleep.
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Great news!
I have Intel processor and Nvidia GTX460M with proprietary drivers.
I have installed: libvdpau (for nvidia), CUDA, opencl-nvidia, libva
and libva-vdpau-driver. I have not installed in my system: libva-utils
and libva1. Arch linux has not dev version, only the items I've
listed. What I
>
>
> Another thing for you @Sam if you can give it a look is, while I've
> already translated "Handbrake in the new version 1.2.0 changes to
> FFmpeg", it still appears as "waiting for translator" in my
> translator/admin page. I don't know why this is the only page doing this
> while all the
I think:
GPU intel (internal) ---> vaapi
GPU NVIDIA AMD (external) ---> vdpau
Nvidia Optimus /Bumbelebee ---> ? (I do not use it)
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> Kdenlive, for example, looks much better from the surface
> (the video and vector scopes lokk great), but is by far not as far
> advanced as Cinelerra. Nevertheless, they have a larger fan base because
> it is more modern and easier to use.
An idea about the GUI could be the option to make the
Instead of vdpau and vaapi is it possible to try OpenCL? It should be
a STD that adapts to any format and hardware. However, it is likely
that its implementation is too complex and intrusive on the code.
CUDA, I wouldn't consider it because it's closed source.
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> NOTE: Loading the three assets without root I only see the edit 2 (as
> I said in the previous mail). Starting from root (with the .bcast
> remaining from previous installations, since I had not eliminated it
> as I do for each new compilation) I see all three edits with no
> errors.
My usual
When there was synchronization was uploaded my message on the forum. I
would say that everything is OK.
You're doing a great job, Sam.
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These days I tried to create a new thread on the forum and also a
ticket on MantisBT that do not appear. It could be a problem with my
Firefox (but I haven't changed it in a long time), or a problem with
my account or other things I don't understand has arisen. It's not
important and there's no
Yes, I'm a slow man (and slow food). Thanks.
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It works perfectly; thank you very much.
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To test the new filters that come with the 4.2 (colorhold, xmedian,
etc), just copy the entries in plugins.opts? After that they appear in
resources --> video effects and you can try them out?
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>
>
> The terminal.txt file points some problem with the Undo stack and mask
> Rotate that he will try to look at today yet.
>
One note: I only had errors with Valgrind. Normal installation proceeds
without errors on the terminal.
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My test:
I confirm the filters to be left in blacklist; to read the
documentation, they require more input tracks, or write in metadata,
or neural networks or even speech recognition. So it is not possible
to make them work in CinGG.
The others are all present in video/audio effects, do not give
Using the mask leads to the following errors at the terminal. The mask
is drawn but the fade does not work: it shows the fade all over the
frame and not in the mask.
The errors, repeated for each action on the mashera tool, are:
Playback3D::print_error:
link
Fragment info
-
(0) :
> *Crop & Position plugin* is new and has been added to the Geometry subset
> (entirely available thanks to an anonymous contributor).
A really useful plugin; thanks to the contributor.
One question: Does it work like a real Crop, i.e. cutting off the
extra parts and getting a smaller size? Or
> Andrea: did you try F_maskfun and get that working?
Unfortunately, I don't understand how F_maskfun works. At the
beginning, with the default parameters, the upper track with maskfun
is completely transparent. Acting on the various parameters, some
colors are solarized according to two
Interesting question. I'm trying to say my mind:
I think there are three kinds of professionals.
1- Production for the cinema. This requires legal companies, as well
as large and rich; guarantees, compatibility with market standards,
assistance, etc.. CinGG can never aim at this market, but it's
Thank you, Phyllis. A small video demonstration of the two plugins I
like: Colorhold and Lagfun.
https://streamable.com/0zdhj
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Done. I put in Igor's last correction; but further changes are always possible.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0js49r47s0qu621/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf?dl=0
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> In the changelog of ffmpeg 4.2 it was announced that Dav1d will be
> integrated. As far as I know it is faster than AOM.
>
I agree that Dav1d is a good thing to implement but, as has been said
in other messages, it's just a decoder. So aom will continue to be
necessary for the encoding. I
I have a slightly different problem within the translator: all the
sentences to be translated are not in English but in German! See the
two screenshots.
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It's all OK, now. Thank you.
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Someone who has a Nvidia not too old, can you tell me if Cuda brings
benefits in CinGG? I have to choose a GPU and I'm still undecided.
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Added chapter 10 (only 4 pages).
I was thinking of using "subcaption" to create grids of images each
with its own caption. What do you think? Actually, I tried to put it
on, but it doesn't work for me.
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This appeared among the daily updates of Arch Linux: aom-v1.0.0-errata1.
More news is in:
https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/+/refs/tags/v1.0.0-errata1
Looks like they've disabled multithreading. Is it important for CinGG?
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About compositing_pipeline_masks you're completely right. I put it in
its place (mask section) and apologize (same dropbox link).
As for the section on the mask tool, I think it needs to be rewritten
to incorporate the latest news. Phyllis, could you get me the odt?
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- Changed \geometry(right=3.0cm). Thanks, Andrey.
- I have inserted Igor's beautiful pdf in manual_latex. (Usual
address: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0js49r47s0qu621/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf?dl=0)
- I had to force the pdf because they are present in ".gitignore". Did
I do wrong?
I take this
The two cuda filters (Mandelbrot and N_Body) appear and can be applied
to edits. But when I move the insertion point over the edit to see the
result of the effect I have a crash (no dump).
I attach the respective errors on the terminal for both plugins.
NOTE: Loading the three assets without root
Your information and tests are always interesting, thanks also for the
link. I also noticed a great CPU usage watching the video of the site.
In total, with "top", we are around 90%, of which 30-40% of GPUs that
do not know what it means (I have enabled hardware acceleration in
Firefox).
But I
See figure in:
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html
(Section 3: Detailed description)
In the quoted sentence it is synonymous of file format or container
(in practice the extension mp4, mov, mkv, etc)
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In the new PC I have problems to install Arch Linux so, temporarily,
I'm trying OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. In the laptop I still have Arch.
To compile CinGG I first installed the dependencies via
"bld_prepare.sh". It has been downloaded Texlive (more than 1 GB of
data!) along with the normal
I also think it is better to complete the manual in Latex.
As for the term cakewalk, it is also an Afro-American dance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk
And an audio editing program:
https://www.bandlab.com/products/cakewalk
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Hi, Andrey.
Olaf has proposed changes to the structure of the Latex manual. Since
he is not a member of the mailing list, I enclose his attachments here
too.
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I'm sorry: the link:
https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=77#c2466
Il giorno lun 18 nov 2019 alle ore 09:32 Andrea paz
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> Hi, Andrey.
> Olaf has proposed changes to the structure of the Latex manual. Since
> he is not a member of the mailing list, I
Everything is OK. Thanks, Sam.
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Add chapter 16.
Pdf at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0js49r47s0qu621/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf?dl=0
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I agree and possibly would also like to implement presets of shapes,
rotations and scaling (as in the mask tool). I guess I wonder too
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@IgorBeg; Usual request to put on the forum the video of the
manipulation of the tracks in the timeline.
@All; There are now many good video tutorials made by IgorBeg and
Phyllis. Having them on streamable is not ideal for their visibility:
you can only access them through forums or mailing lists.
@IgorBeg
I look forward to the tutorials on your site. Those you have done so
far are comfortable, clear and instructive.
As for putting direct links to the videos inside the website, there
was a proposal from Olaf with Sam's relative response.
Some of the advice I've accumulated over the years:
1- Eliminate Spectre mitigations and other CPU security flaws. These
in fact remove multithreading. If one makes a home use it is
permissible to remove security patches, but it is a decision that
everyone must evaluate for themselves. It seems to
Hi, Andrey.
I continued to study the tables and in the end I came to a simplified
version but that satisfies me. I would like your opinion and
suggestions. I have privileged the practical side of reading over the
aesthetics. When I have finished entering the data I will provide the
sample pdf, so
Great job. In my opinion it was the biggest lack of CinGG, because
those who approached it with a 4k monitor, ran away immediately,
without giving a second chance. GG/Phyllis, thank you very much for
this huge job (15 000 lines of code!).
My tests are not very indicative because I still have the
Always interesting are your tests; thank you.
I've seen that Magicyuv is not open source, but it's free for 8 bits.
>From wikipedia I found the codecs Lagarith and Turing, do you know them?
Lagarith (lossless) seems to be the highest quality but also very slow
in single threads:
> > Lagarith is included in ffmpeg instead. Just create the .opts file to
> > have it in CinGG?
>
> Not sure if there is encoder or decoder only? Looking
> probably decoder only
$ ffmpeg -codecs
Legend codecs:
D. = Decoding supported
.E = Encoding supported
..V... = Video
> "The Turing codec is an H.265/HEVC software video encoder and decoder for
> efficient video compression"
> If they have ffmpeg patch you can try it :}
No, ffmpeg does not support Turing. So should one create a patch to
include it? It's beyond my capabilities.
Lagarith is included in ffmpeg
Add chapter 17.
In \todo I put two figures in which I copied your TikZ code to show
writings and arrows, but the arrows are not displayed. I added the
\caption package at Olaf's suggestion. Let me know if it's okay.
I've also put in the latest changes made by Phyllis.
D Quinton's e-mails are full of interesting suggestions. Maybe it's
better to put them on Mantis BT so as not to lose track of them?
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