Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-31 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Thank You, Phyllis! Phyllis wrote: GIT checkin with Blur plugin commented out "Alpha determines radius" and improved looks without the difficult dial. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-29 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
GIT checkin with Blur plugin commented out "Alpha determines radius" and improved looks without the difficult dial. Also, added comment in ffv1.mkv in how to change version number. On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 7:37 AM Phyllis Smith wrote: > I did open a BT #599 ( >

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-29 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Good! Thanks Phyllis! Il 28/12/2021 15:37, Phyllis Smith via Cin ha scritto: I did open a BT #599 (https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=599) for this so that if it is commented out, it can be addressed later when someone comes along who might be interested in it (a GIMP guru

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-28 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
I did open a BT #599 ( https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=599) for this so that if it is commented out, it can be addressed later when someone comes along who might be interested in it (a GIMP guru maybe). On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 1:55 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-28 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Thanks Andrea_paz and Igor_VLD! For all users who have tested this function, it seems not to work. I think that only those who developed it know if it works and exactly how it works. I have done different tests. Some of these... I tested it using PNG with alpha on another track and Overlay

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-27 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
I reported the problem on the CinCV mailing list; here is the address of the response I got: https://www.freelists.org/post/cinelerra-cv-team/Blur-plugin,1 (Igor_VLD has total knowledge of all Cinelerra branches...) -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-27 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Thanks Phyllis! Mee too, prefer A (first choice) and B (second choice). Let's see if Andrew receives an answer from Adam for "Alpha determines radius" feature/bug. Phyllis wrote: So should I open a BT for the "alpha determines radius"... -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-26 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Igor, good idea. I like A the best and B the second best; for some reason I do not like C. So should I open a BT for the "alpha determines radius" or should it just be deleted since we have no idea what its purpose was? It does not seem like it was ever relevant. On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 10:00 AM

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-26 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
In case it is a bug, what do you think if we would improve the GUI? I have done three photomontages (a, b, c). -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-26 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Hiding it is probably the best idea. There were/are things in HV that did not work correctly and unless someone stumbled across them (like Igor just did) they would not have gotten fixed. On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 2:17 AM Andrea paz via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > I also think it

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-26 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Sunday, December 26, 2021, Andrea paz wrote: > I also think it is a bug. If in Phyllis' example we put a track > underneath with, for example, a colored background, activating the > "Alpha determines radius" option makes that track disappear in the > Compositor leaving a black background. It

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-26 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
I also think it is a bug. If in Phyllis' example we put a track underneath with, for example, a colored background, activating the "Alpha determines radius" option makes that track disappear in the Compositor leaving a black background. It is as if this option took the black of the first track

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-25 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Friday, December 24, 2021, Phyllis Smith via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > https://streamable.com/0fonz0 for the demo. > > Other notes: > Works in HV 4.6.1 with similar, but not exact results, so that is where it > came from (CinGG was based on the original HV

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-25 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Thanks Phyllis for the demo! It works like the tests I did on a PNG with alpha channel but I think the result is more a bug. Maybe in CinelerraCV it was deleted for that? Works in HV 4.6.1 with similar, but not exact results, so that is where it came from (CinGG was based on the original HV

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-24 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
https://streamable.com/0fonz0 for the demo. Other notes: Works in HV 4.6.1 with similar, but not exact results, so that is where it came from (CinGG was based on the original HV and CV mods were added later). Not in CV code that I checked. Maybe the manual can be updated about

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-24 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Phyllis wrote: OK, I finally got a case that shows it does something and here is how to do that (I can provide a video, if necessary). Step 1 - start Cinelarra and just wipe an area to drag the "Title" plugin to it and type in some worlds to see in Compositor. Step 2 - now drag the "Blur"

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
That should be *"words" not "worlds"* in Step 1 -- it is too hard to type in worlds !! Step 1 - start Cinelarra and just wipe an area to drag the "Title" plugin > to it and type in some *worlds* to see in Compositor. > ec 23, 2021 at 3:07 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin > wrote: > >> >> >> Andrea

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
OK, I finally got a case that shows it does something and here is how to do that (I can provide a video, if necessary). Step 1 - start Cinelarra and just wipe an area to drag the "Title" plugin to it and type in some worlds to see in Compositor. Step 2 - now drag the "Blur" plugin to that same

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
fire email at Adam, may be he remeber? On Thursday, December 23, 2021, Igor BEGHETTO via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > > > Andrea wrote: > >> Maybe it works in an interval with keyframes? I wouldn't know how to test >> it... >> >> > Good idea but I don't think it works for

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Andrea wrote: Maybe it works in an interval with keyframes? I wouldn't know how to test it... Good idea but I don't think it works for keyframes. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
Maybe it works in an interval with keyframes? I wouldn't know how to test it... -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Andrew wrote: can anyone try Cin-HV 5/6/7 (may be in VM?) and see how this plugin work there? Andrea wrote: Now Cin-HV works and I can see that it has the Blur plugin with the "Alpha determines radius" option. But still I can't understand its use. In my system (UbuntuStudio_16.04_64bit)

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-23 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
> on ubuntu 18 (lts?) you can just download and install older libpng Thanks, I was stuck on atp not finding libpng12 Now Cin-HV works and I can see that it has the Blur plugin with the "Alpha determines radius" option. But still I can't understand its use. Looking at the source code can you

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-22 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Wednesday, December 22, 2021, Andrea paz wrote: > > can anyone try Cin-HV 5/6/7 (may be in VM?) and see how this plugin work > there > > I put Ubuntu 18 in VM to try the Blur plugin. I tried to install the > cinelerra-HV binary but it gives me error: > > error libpng12.so.0 not such file or

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-22 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Wednesday, December 22, 2021, Andrea paz wrote: > > can anyone try Cin-HV 5/6/7 (may be in VM?) and see how this plugin work > there > > I put Ubuntu 18 in VM to try the Blur plugin. I tried to install the > cinelerra-HV binary but it gives me error: > > error libpng12.so.0 not such file or

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-22 Thread Andrea paz via Cin
> can anyone try Cin-HV 5/6/7 (may be in VM?) and see how this plugin work there I put Ubuntu 18 in VM to try the Blur plugin. I tried to install the cinelerra-HV binary but it gives me error: error libpng12.so.0 not such file or directory. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-22 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Wednesday, December 22, 2021, Igor BEGHETTO via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > Thanks to all of you (Phyllis, Andrew, Andrea) for the quick reply and > your tests! > I tried with a PNG (and JPG) image with alpha channel (a simply Text made > in GIMP) on a top track and, in the

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-22 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Thanks to all of you (Phyllis, Andrew, Andrea) for the quick reply and your tests! I tried with a PNG (and JPG) image with alpha channel (a simply Text made in GIMP) on a top track and, in the bottom track, with a video but I don't see any good use. Do you have any idea why it was born?

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-21 Thread Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
On Wednesday, December 22, 2021, Phyllis Smith via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > Forgot to add. A test I did when I rendered with the blur plugin using a > single frame selection/png, the resulting file was exactly the same whether > "Alpha determines radius" was on or off. > but

Re: [Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-21 Thread Phyllis Smith via Cin
Forgot to add. A test I did when I rendered with the blur plugin using a single frame selection/png, the resulting file was exactly the same whether "Alpha determines radius" was on or off. On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 1:51 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote: > Hi! > In

[Cin] Blur plugin: Alpha determines radius

2021-12-21 Thread Igor BEGHETTO via Cin
Hi! In Blur plugin there is the "Alpha determines radius" option. I think it doesn't work but I can wrong. Can someone explain to me how it works, please? Thanks! IgorBeg -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin