Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 27.02.2023 14:39, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Better late than never! When I have digitized S-video to DV I have been disappointed about less color saturation and darker pictures of theDV result playback. Finishing Hi8 I just continued with VHS and vhsc digitizing, where red and green were even lesser and weak. What I now found out to my surprise is that it is really the MX-1/TBC that eats the colors in my work chain, and not as exspected the A/DV conversion. MX-1 has been known to include an effective, fullframe TBC, 8bit/422 brilliant color depth/sampling and 500 lines resolution, especially the better PAL version. It is also a video mixer with noise filter an a lot of effects like Chroma key. I have not found out if MX-1 can be set up with extended color saturation. Despite that this is off-topic and specific historical, I will supplement that MX-1's Advanced Setup also had Black level setting and Composite Chroma AGC. Setting the latter Automatic Gain Control, compensates for RCA input source with weak color signal, ref. the MX-1 manual chpt 5 and this good, old forum's reply: https://tech.churchofjesuschrist.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=149189#p149189 But I had and have tested a Videotech Design VCC3010 high resolution (700 lines!) RGB color corrector and video processor, with no need to decode! A week ago I tested VCC3010 in front of MX-1, with no visible result. That is, MX-1 did eat also these colors. But now when VCC3010 is connected after (behind) MX-1, the colors and saturation on the DN-300 DV record loop/playback could be returned closer to the analog source. Some will probably say colors can be added easy in the post. But I prefer also the "digitized sources" keep the original color levels. fre. 24. feb. 2023, 17:52 skrev Andrew Randrianasulu : пт, 24 февр. 2023 г., 14:25 Terje J. Hanssen : Happily, the DN-300 came back from the dead and is currently converting and recording S-video to DV again, though it somewhat fickly to get mounted "HDD enabled" via Firewire to Linux :). \o/ I hope box will remain undead for at least as long as needed for all works and tests :) Den 19.02.2023 17:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: Terje, I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this option since you stated: "The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead." Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder -> FireWire/Linux WS Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to transfer the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. Terje Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Better late than never! When I have digitizing S-video to DV I have been disappointed about less color saturation and darker pictures on DV result playback. Finishing Hi8 I just continued with VHS and vhsc digitizing, where red and green were even lesser and weak. What I now found out to my surprise is that it is really the MX-1/TBC that eats the colors in my work chain, and not as exspected the A/DV coversion. MX-1 has been known to include an effective, fullframe TBC, 8bit/422 brilliant color depth/sampling and 500 lines resolution, especially the better PAL version. It is also a video mixer with noise filter an a lot of effects like Chroma key. I have not found out if MX-1 can be set up with extended color saturation. But I had and have tested a Videotech Design VCC3010 high resolution (700 lines!) RGB color corrector and video processor, with no need to decode! A week ago I tested VCC3010 in front of MX-1, with no visible result.That is, MX-1 eat also these colors. But now when VCC3010 is connected after (behind) MX-1, the colors and saturation on DN-300 DV record loop/playback could be returned close to the analog source. Some will probably say colors can be added easy in the post. But I prefer also the digitalized sources with real correct colors. fre. 24. feb. 2023, 17:52 skrev Andrew Randrianasulu < [email protected]>: > > > пт, 24 февр. 2023 г., 14:25 Terje J. Hanssen : > >> Happily, the DN-300 came back from the dead and is currently converting >> and recording S-video to DV again, though it somewhat fickly to get mounted >> "HDD enabled" via Firewire to Linux :). >> > > > \o/ I hope box will remain undead for at least as long as needed for all > works and tests :) > >> >> Den 19.02.2023 17:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: >> >> >> >> Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: >> >> Terje, >> I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but >> I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of >> the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the >> capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this >> option since you stated: >>"The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder >> seemingly is dead." >> >> >> Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder >> -> FireWire/Linux WS >> >> Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to >> transfer the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. >> >> Terje >> >> >> Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or >> Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. >> >>> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? >>> >>> >>> it was not tested in ages . >>> guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of >>> cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to >>> iec* >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
пт, 24 февр. 2023 г., 14:25 Terje J. Hanssen : > Happily, the DN-300 came back from the dead and is currently converting > and recording S-video to DV again, though it somewhat fickly to get mounted > "HDD enabled" via Firewire to Linux :). > \o/ I hope box will remain undead for at least as long as needed for all works and tests :) > > Den 19.02.2023 17:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: > > > > Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: > > Terje, > I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but > I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of > the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the > capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this > option since you stated: >"The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly > is dead." > > > Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder > -> FireWire/Linux WS > > Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to transfer > the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. > > Terje > > > Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or > Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. > >> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional >>> can be configured? >>> >> >> >> it was not tested in ages . >> guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of >> cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to >> iec* >> >> >> > > -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Happily, the DN-300 came back from the dead and is currently converting and recording S-video to DV again, though it somewhat fickly to get mounted "HDD enabled" via Firewire to Linux :). Den 19.02.2023 17:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: Terje, I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this option since you stated: "The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead." Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder -> FireWire/Linux WS Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to transfer the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. Terje Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 19.02.2023 18:59, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting. On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883. Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is found: --with-firewire use firewire (auto) --with-dv use dv (auto) Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead. well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those libraries Could you possibly outline how to do it? in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883. To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to English: Settings | Settings | Preferences window: Video In / Record driver In the dropdown menu there are available both * DV 1394 * IEC 61883 As reference also the following from Cin-CV's wiki and from Raffael's Howto (Cinelerra for Grandma): http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1 Firewire Firewire is the fastest way to download material into your system. Unless you will be importing your media from a CD, any other pre-captured format or use an analog video grabber, you will need firewire on your system. DV cameras There is an large variety of DV cameras that can be used with Cinelerra. Almost any camera that can connect using firewire will work. Be sure to set the appropriate parameters on the video grabbing system to match your particular camera. http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab How to capture video from your miniDV camcorder /Using the Command Line - dvgrab --- I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13022.html https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06183.html http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of *libiec61883*. Use this syntax: |test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg| and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources consuming task on your computer since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops. New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example: Syntax: |dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip| , but I am guessing (from bug https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV vide
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 18:59, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting. On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883. Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is found: --with-firewire use firewire (auto) --with-dv use dv (auto) Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead. well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those libraries Could you possibly outline how to do it? in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883. To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to English: Settings | Settings | Preferences window: Video In / Record driver In the dropdown menu there are available both * DV 1394 * IEC 61883 --- I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13022.html https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06183.html http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of *libiec61883*. Use this syntax: |test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg| and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources consuming task on your computer since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops. New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example: Syntax: |dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip| , but I am guessing (from bug https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for dealing with this, but it probably must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9 Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ Terje J. H -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen : > > > Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: > > > > вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen : > >> >> >> Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: >> >> >> >> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard >>> connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple >>> computers. >>> >>> >>>- FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, >>>guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. >>>- The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in >>>the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 >>>- http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 >>> >>> >>> >>>- ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 >>>(Streamcopy) seems also interesting. >>> >>> On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with >>> --enable-libiec61883. >>> >>> Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? >>> >>> http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 >>> http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz >>> >>> >>> I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording >>> Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, >>> in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is >>> found: >>> >>> --with-firewire use firewire (auto) >>> --with-dvuse dv (auto) >>> >>> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional >>> can be configured? >>> >> >> >> it was not tested in ages . >> guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of >> cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to >> iec* >> >> >> I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it >> once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. >> The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is >> dead. >> > > > well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those > libraries > > > Could you possibly outline how to do it? > in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883. --- > > I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on CinCVS/Skolelinux > mailing list and the referenced manual wiki: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13022.html > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06183.html > http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26 > > 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder > > There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run the > test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of *libiec61883*. Use this > syntax: > > test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg > > and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources > consuming task on your computer since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2 > causes frame drops. > > New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example: > Syntax: > > dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip > > > > > , but I am guessing (from bug > https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run > into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV > video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for dealing with this, > but it probably must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like > this should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer: > > > https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9 > > >> >>> >>> Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively >>> >>> https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html >>> >>> https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ >>> >>> >>> Terje J. H >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cin mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >>> >> >> > -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen : Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting. On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883. Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is found: --with-firewire use firewire (auto) --with-dv use dv (auto) Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead. well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those libraries Could you possibly outline how to do it? --- I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13022.html https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06183.html http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of *libiec61883*. Use this syntax: |test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg| and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources consuming task on your computer since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops. New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example: Syntax: |dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip| , but I am guessing (from bug https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for dealing with this, but it probably must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9 Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ Terje J. H -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 17:15, skrev Terje J. Hanssen: Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: Terje, I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this option since you stated: "The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead." Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder -> FireWire/Linux WS Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to transfer the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. Terje Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. I forgot to comment the latter. In my case the DN-300 recorder above also had a built-in ADC and ecorded the digitized Hi8 S-video as SD DV files. And then DV files burned to Blu-ray data discs as backup. Thereafter making mpeg2 Blu-ray Video discs. Regarding digitizing the rest of 30 analog S-video tapes, I'll also will try out (when arrived) an ADC adapter+ HDMI-USB3 capture card qualities. Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Phyllis Smith: Terje, I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this option since you stated: "The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead." Sony FX7/HDV tape Playback/i.LINK -> Datavideo DN-300 DV/HDV HDD recorder -> FireWire/Linux WS Now when the M2T and DV recorder in the middle is dead, I have to transfer the files directly from the camcorder/player to the Linux WS. Terje Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen : > > > Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: > > > > вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin < > [email protected]>: > >> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard >> connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple >> computers. >> >> >>- FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, >>guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. >>- The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in >>the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 >>- http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 >> >> >> >>- ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 >>(Streamcopy) seems also interesting. >> >> On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with >> --enable-libiec61883. >> >> Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? >> >> http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 >> http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz >> >> >> I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording >> Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, >> in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is >> found: >> >> --with-firewire use firewire (auto) >> --with-dvuse dv (auto) >> >> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional >> can be configured? >> > > > it was not tested in ages . > guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of > cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to > iec* > > > I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it > once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. > The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is > dead. > well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those libraries, but I am guessing (from bug https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for dealing with this, but it probably must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9 > >> >> Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively >> >> https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html >> >> https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ >> >> >> Terje J. H >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cin mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >> > > -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Terje, I can say with 100% certainty that here we have never tested FIREWIRE but I did notice that the CV contributors did add "ifdef FIREWIRE" in a few of the .C programs which conceivably means that it can be built with the capability. However, I guess I do not understand why you would want this option since you stated: "The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead." Recently I successfully was able to do: "Transfer VHS/DVD Media or Video8/Hi8 Tapes into CINELERRA-GG" though. > Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional >> can be configured? >> > > > it was not tested in ages . > guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of > cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to > iec* > > > -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin : IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting. On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883. Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is found: --with-firewire use firewire (auto) --with-dv use dv (auto) Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service. The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead. Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ Terje J. H -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Re: [Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin < [email protected]>: > IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection > to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. > > >- FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, >guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. >- The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in >the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 >- http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 > > > >- ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 >(Streamcopy) seems also interesting. > > On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with > --enable-libiec61883. > > Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? > > http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 > http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz > > > I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording > Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, > in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is > found: > > --with-firewire use firewire (auto) > --with-dvuse dv (auto) > > Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional > can be configured? > it was not tested in ages . guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of cingg's configure then connect device and try to set capture device to iec* > > > Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively > > https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html > > https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ > > > Terje J. H > > > > > -- > Cin mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin > -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
[Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire
IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple computers. * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems. * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2 * http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5 * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting. On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883. Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG? http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883 http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is found: --with-firewire use firewire (auto) --with-dv use dv (auto) Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional can be configured? Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/ Terje J. H -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
