Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-21 Thread Andraž Tori
On Sat, 2006-10-21 at 10:18 +0930, Pierre Dumuid wrote: Thanks Andraz, BTW: Johannes mentioned this idea on IRC and I second it, To save on commits to the SVN these ideas can be placed in a git repo set up on pipapo for git users. This can provide a place for others to try your idea

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Nicolas
Hello, I was too a bit surprised by the change. At first, when moving the cursor on the timeline, I wasn't able to do NOT select a part of the video. All I wanted was to see the flashing insertion point, without any selection. Fortunately, minmax helped me on the IRC, and he advised me to move

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Kurt Georg Hooss
folks, once i understood i found it makes sense to have the two modes. but having the issue on the agenda anyway... there is one closely related thing that really annoys me. in either mode, i found it problematic that cutting out some part (be it a complete clip or a drag--drop selection)

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Andraž Tori
On Fri, 2006-10-20 at 09:59 +0200, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote: folks, once i understood i found it makes sense to have the two modes. but having the issue on the agenda anyway... there is one closely related thing that really annoys me. in either mode, i found it problematic that cutting out

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid
Ok.. I really don't like this modification. I hate having to hold the shift down. I work with selection more than anything else... Andraz, Isn't your patch making the default mode drag and drop and modify the functionality of dragging on the time-bar, or pressing the shift key to turn

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread mskala
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Nicolas wrote: I was too a bit surprised by the change. At first, when moving the cursor on the timeline, I wasn't able to do NOT select a part of the video. All I wanted was to see the flashing insertion point, without any selection. Fortunately, minmax helped me on the

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Christian Thaeter
Andraž Tori wrote: a patch that completely merges both editing modes of cinelerra into a single one, with shift key being the modifier ... editing modes are one of the hardest things for new learners of cinelerra to comprehend (by my experience) and there is really no reason not to merge

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Raffaella Traniello
Hi! Andraž Tori wrote: editing modes are one of the hardest things for new learners of cinelerra to comprehend I'm a genuine dull beginner. I've never had any problem with editing modes. (I hope not to have my newbie certificate cancelled for that) :-) Raffaella

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Andraž Tori
Yes, since everyone is so overhelmingly against this change, i'll find out some other solution ... Though i still think editing modes are something that confuses users... it's the same as emacs ... powerful but only handfull of people will master them. i'll try to code up something tomorrow bye

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Thursday 19 October 2006 19:11, Andraž Tori wrote: a patch that completely merges both editing modes of cinelerra into a single one, with shift key being the modifier ... editing modes are one of the hardest things for new learners of cinelerra to comprehend (by my experience) and there is

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Johannes Sixt
On Friday 20 October 2006 20:49, Andraž Tori wrote: Yes, since everyone is so overhelmingly against this change, i'll find out some other solution ... Though i still think editing modes are something that confuses users... it's the same as emacs ... powerful but only handfull of people will

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Pierre Dumuid
Thanks Andraz, BTW: Johannes mentioned this idea on IRC and I second it, To save on commits to the SVN these ideas can be placed in a git repo set up on pipapo for git users. This can provide a place for others to try your idea before commit. The branching system also I find really cool to in

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-20 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid
Oops, I didn't read johannes email above! didn't need to propose git! (was browsing email via web interface rathe than thunderbird...) Pierre Pierre Dumuid wrote: Thanks Andraz, BTW: Johannes mentioned this idea on IRC and I second it, To save on commits to the SVN these ideas can be

Re: [CinCVS] merge editing modes

2006-10-19 Thread Pierre Marc Dumuid
Hi Andraz, I find this patch REALLY difficult to use. I really don't know how to work with this patch anymore.. I personally have previewed a project via clicking-and-dragging. in a scrubbing manner. I know one can do this on the time-line, but these selection doesn't grow with the view. Also