Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra -->received
Am Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:38:13 +0100 schrieb Christian Thaeter : > Am Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:24:43 -0500 > schrieb jankomEarthlink : > > > I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used > > the software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software > > experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in > > general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. > > Thanks I'll accept the pledge and send you payment details in a > private mail. I've got 17.92Eur ($25) from Janos. Thanks for your Support Christian > > > > > > I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF > > (Free Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able > > to register with them and obtain the required support (server space > > for version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting > > them with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open > > source, free, community developed and constantly improved software. > > I believe this would be the primary means of supporting cash > > expenditures of open source software volunteers, rather than > > sending contributions to individuals, separate organizations. > > We once decided to run our own server to have more flexible hosting > solutions (own Mailinglist, git hosting (wasn't common that time), ..) > > Meanwhile we need responsible people/admins who care for the project > and this stuff. Raffa suggested to move to some free > bugtracker/project hoster (launchpad/sourceforge/github ...whatever). > > I do not see how such a move will benefit the project. Its true that > little less administrative tasks need to be done then, but still the > project needs people who care. Plenty of such free software project > hosts have massive spam problems, sourceforge turned into an > advertisement trove etc. Hosting it at the FSF would be more > politically correct, but only solve a few adminstrative problems > while not the problem that people need to be devoted to the project > and care for it. > > Moreover I've always payed for the server and would not take it down > because its not payed, i just asked for money because i feel it would > be ok if this (little) burden is shared and people can help there and > i am surprised about the massive positive responses last days. > > The Server itself hosts some other projects and has to be payed > anyways. When cinelerra would move away (yet alone I don't see anyone > who will reliably organize this move till the end). I still have to > pay for the server and maybe search for some other project/person wo > wants to take over this hosting-slot (IP address etc) and pay his > share. Conclusion for me is that it would be more trouble for > cinelerra and for me when it moves away. > > > Christian > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
Hi Janos, wtf earthlink .. dosnt accept my private mail, gives me a javascript/captcha laden antispam registration form .. i do not approve, pls send me a working email Christian Am Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:24:43 -0500 schrieb jankomEarthlink : > I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the > software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software > experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in > general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. > > I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free > Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to > register with them and obtain the required support (server space for > version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them > with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, > community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this > would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open > source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to > individuals, separate organizations. > > Finally, I copy FSF with this message so that they may respond > directly to Cinelerra about the merits of my idea. > > Janos > North Andover, MA > USA > > > On 01/15/2014 06:00 AM, cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no wrote: > > Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to > > cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > cinelerra-ow...@skolelinux.no > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: server payment (Christian Thaeter) > > 2. Server Payment -> received (Christian Thaeter) > > 3. Re: Server Payment (E Chalaron) > > 4. Re: Server Payment (Christian Thaeter) > > 5. Re: Server Payment --> received (Christian Thaeter) > > 6. Re: Server Payment (g...@karricountry.com.au) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:04:58 +0100 > > From: Christian Thaeter > > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > Cc: al...@wanadoo.fr > > Subject: Re: [CinCV] server payment > > Message-ID: <20140114190458.362ed...@jupiter.pipapo.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Am Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:23:46 +0100 > > schrieb Frans de Boer : > > > >> On 01/14/2014 08:01 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: > >>> Hello Christian > >>> I can also send 50 ?. Just need information. > >>> And thanks a lot for doing this. > >>> Hope the project will live. > >>> Haldun :)) > > Hi Haldun, I'll thankfully accept your pledge too. Please contact me > > about what Payment methods you prefer, I'll then send you details > > about the payment. > > > > Thanks > > Christian > > > > > >> You have to send your replies to the list, not just use reply-to > >> > >> I forwarded this to the list. > > Thanks to Frans too :) > > > >> Frans. > >> ___ > >> Cinelerra mailing list > >> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > >> https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > -- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:07:47 +0100 > > From: Christian Thaeter > > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > Subject: [CinCV] Server Payment -> received > > Message-ID: <20140114200747.54763...@jupiter.pipapo.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Rolf Steinort send me ?43,37 EUR w/o pledging this first ... > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 > > From: E Chalaron > > To: "Mailinglist for Cinelerra, the community version" > > > > Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment > > Message-ID: <52d5aa34.7070...@xtra.co.nz> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > Christian > > Make it another 50 ! > > Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. > > cheers > > E > > > > > > On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: > >> While talking about it: > >> > >> someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, > >> which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to > >> transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. > >> > >>Christian Th?ter > >> ___ > >> Cinelerra mailing list > >> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > >> https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:45:20 +0100 > > From: Christian Thaeter > > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > > Cc: e.chala...@xtra.co.nz > > Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment > > Message-
Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
Am Thu, 16 Jan 2014 05:24:43 -0500 schrieb jankomEarthlink : > I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the > software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software > experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in > general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. Thanks I'll accept the pledge and send you payment details in a private mail. > > I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free > Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to > register with them and obtain the required support (server space for > version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them > with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, > community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this > would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open > source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to > individuals, separate organizations. We once decided to run our own server to have more flexible hosting solutions (own Mailinglist, git hosting (wasn't common that time), ..) Meanwhile we need responsible people/admins who care for the project and this stuff. Raffa suggested to move to some free bugtracker/project hoster (launchpad/sourceforge/github ...whatever). I do not see how such a move will benefit the project. Its true that little less administrative tasks need to be done then, but still the project needs people who care. Plenty of such free software project hosts have massive spam problems, sourceforge turned into an advertisement trove etc. Hosting it at the FSF would be more politically correct, but only solve a few adminstrative problems while not the problem that people need to be devoted to the project and care for it. Moreover I've always payed for the server and would not take it down because its not payed, i just asked for money because i feel it would be ok if this (little) burden is shared and people can help there and i am surprised about the massive positive responses last days. The Server itself hosts some other projects and has to be payed anyways. When cinelerra would move away (yet alone I don't see anyone who will reliably organize this move till the end). I still have to pay for the server and maybe search for some other project/person wo wants to take over this hosting-slot (IP address etc) and pay his share. Conclusion for me is that it would be more trouble for cinelerra and for me when it moves away. Christian ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Supporting Cinelerra
I'm also willing to support Cinelerra with $25 since I have used the software in the past and appreciate volunteer work of software experts. I also believe in the concept of free software and Linux in general as opposed to closed systems like Vindooz. I also have a suggestion or question. Are you guys aware of FSF (Free Software Foundation - http://www.fsf.org/ )? You may be able to register with them and obtain the required support (server space for version storage, mailing list, etc.). I have been supporting them with a yearly donation as my primary commitment to open source, free, community developed and constantly improved software. I believe this would be the primary means of supporting cash expenditures of open source software volunteers, rather than sending contributions to individuals, separate organizations. Finally, I copy FSF with this message so that they may respond directly to Cinelerra about the merits of my idea. Janos North Andover, MA USA On 01/15/2014 06:00 AM, cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no wrote: Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to cinelerra@skolelinux.no To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cinelerra-requ...@skolelinux.no You can reach the person managing the list at cinelerra-ow...@skolelinux.no When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: server payment (Christian Thaeter) 2. Server Payment -> received (Christian Thaeter) 3. Re: Server Payment (E Chalaron) 4. Re: Server Payment (Christian Thaeter) 5. Re: Server Payment --> received (Christian Thaeter) 6. Re: Server Payment (g...@karricountry.com.au) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:04:58 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: al...@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: [CinCV] server payment Message-ID: <20140114190458.362ed...@jupiter.pipapo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:23:46 +0100 schrieb Frans de Boer : On 01/14/2014 08:01 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: Hello Christian I can also send 50 ?. Just need information. And thanks a lot for doing this. Hope the project will live. Haldun :)) Hi Haldun, I'll thankfully accept your pledge too. Please contact me about what Payment methods you prefer, I'll then send you details about the payment. Thanks Christian You have to send your replies to the list, not just use reply-to I forwarded this to the list. Thanks to Frans too :) Frans. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:07:47 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Subject: [CinCV] Server Payment -> received Message-ID: <20140114200747.54763...@jupiter.pipapo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Rolf Steinort send me ?43,37 EUR w/o pledging this first ... Thanks -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 From: E Chalaron To: "Mailinglist for Cinelerra,the community version" Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: <52d5aa34.7070...@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Christian Make it another 50 ! Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. cheers E On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Christian Th?ter ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:45:20 +0100 From: Christian Thaeter To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Cc: e.chala...@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [CinCV] Server Payment Message-ID: <20140115004520.5d6f8...@jupiter.pipapo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Am Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:20:52 +1300 schrieb E Chalaron : Christian Make it another 50 ! Hope this will encourage people, every $, E etc .. counts. cheers E Thanks, accepted, I'll send you payment details On 14/01/14 10:33, Christian Thaeter wrote: While talking about it: someone pledged to send me 50Eur anonymously, which I would gratefully accept, I gave him/her advice how to transfer money and as soon I receive it i'll notice this here. Christian Th?ter ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra _
