Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008, David Hawthorne wrote: btw, one of the surprising tricks we learned was that the range start_port end_port specification won't fill up TCAM on the 6500/7600 IFF your port ranges fall on bit boundaries just like networks do. I'm sure I've read that documented

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
Such algorithms are indeed used, as you can see at the IOS reference for the access-list compiled command where the ACL is converted to a data structure that is O(1). I don't know which algorithm they use in IOS nowadays, but for a very good reference on all of those algorithms (using RAM or

Re: [c-nsp] 12.40(20T), pppoe woes

2008-09-09 Thread Reuben Farrelly
On 8/09/2008 8:43 PM, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote: David, please check CSCsu35584, it will be fixed in the upcoming 12.4(20)T1 rebuild and the above restriction will be removed.. oli Hi Oli, What is the approximate timeframe on 12.4(20)T1? I'm asking because I'd really like

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread David Hawthorne
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Bill is practically right. The semantics for Cisco ACLs aren't here's a set of IP ranges, apply this behaviour, they're a linear walk of rules from top to bottom applying behaviour at each step. Collapsing that into the smallest set of

[c-nsp] changing the number of equal-cost paths

2008-09-09 Thread Takao Hotta
Hi, I would like to change the number of ospf ecmp by using the maximum-paths command for up to six equal-cost paths on Cisco 12406. But I am worried about the impacts on routing/cef/connection for spf recalculation. Things is it has 6 links now, but ecmp number was like default (four). Anyone

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Matt Carter
Are you serious? Well, I unhappily and disappointedly stand corrected, then. Indeed, Cisco documentation appears to confirm what you and Bill are saying. There are a variety of known algorithms for traversing hashed structures while taking order of precedence into account. I am, quite

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Matt Carter
Are you _sure_ that order is important in these ACLs? I ask because I honestly don't know, so don't get me wrong. yes it is.. i have seen software based platforms knock 10-20% cpu off by reworking very poorly laid out ACL's in a top down fashion. It just seems rather unlikely. Organising

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Alex Balashov
Just to be clear, in case it isn't, I was not referring to how the ACLs are organised from the user perspective, presentation-wise, but rather I was surprised that they are not all put into an optimised data structure on the back side by IOS by default so that matching can happen with

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Alex Balashov
Adrian Chadd wrote: Please yank the first year computer science curriculum bit which provides the student with the clue required to algorithmically determine the smallest set of permit/deny's keeping the above semantics correct. Then do some basic analysis to find out what the resource bounds

Re: [c-nsp] Tool(free?) to extract vlan+trunk info from Cat4003

2008-09-09 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:35:57AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have a few old Cat4003's that we need to get all L2 Info from(All vlans/trunks etc) - Was hoping there was a tool(free) that could automate the task? Had a look at Cisco Network Assist, and enabled http server on

Re: [c-nsp] iBGP Multi-link question

2008-09-09 Thread Adam Greene
Jeff, in my experience having multiple BGP sessions between two routers, with different end-points for each session, works fine ... - Original Message - From: Jeff Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:45 AM Subject: [c-nsp] iBGP

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Dunn
Don't use TACL's on the software platforms. It has been removed from the CLI for the ISR's (it shouldn't have slipped in to begin with). There are very difficult challenges to handle for things such as updating the ACL on configuration change, memory usage, etc. Most HW forwarding platforms

Re: [c-nsp] changing the number of equal-cost paths

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Dunn
The packet loss would be very very minimal. Users most likely will not even notice it. Your biggest worry in these environments is the hw programming resources and memory usage when you go with so many dual paths. Just be aware of that and make sure your hw programming LC's can support it.

[c-nsp] Errors before boot loader

2008-09-09 Thread Rens
Hi, Should I worry about errors that are sent from the boot loader? %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configuration from version 12.4 may not be correctly understood %-4-SERVUNDEF: The server-group tacacs+ is not defined. Please define it. %-4-SERVUNDEF: The server-group tacacs+ is not

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Dunn
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:26:18PM +0100, Mateusz B?aszczyk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodney 2008/9/9 Rodney Dunn : Don't use TACL's on the software platforms. It has been removed from the CLI for the ISR's (it shouldn't have slipped in to begin with).

Re: [c-nsp] Errors before boot loader

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Dunn
No. Rodney On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 04:01:52PM +0200, Rens wrote: Hi, Should I worry about errors that are sent from the boot loader? %SYS-4-CONFIG_NEWER: Configuration from version 12.4 may not be correctly understood %-4-SERVUNDEF: The server-group tacacs+ is not

[c-nsp] 10G Xenpak 'virgin' question

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Kell
We're trying to light up our first 10G Xenpak link, so far without success, so I'm looking for a quick sanity check. 3750G-16TD switch with an LR Xenpak [ours], trying to link to a Ciena [not ours] add/drop ONS. We had some marginal power levels trying to backhaul the circuit across campus, so

Re: [c-nsp] 10G Xenpak 'virgin' question

2008-09-09 Thread Colin Whittaker
The Ciena is probably not doing auto negotiation. try speed nonegotiate on the interface and once it sees light it should bring the interface up. On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 10:41:31AM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote: We're trying to light up our first 10G Xenpak link, so far without success, so I'm

Re: [c-nsp] 12.40(20T), pppoe woes

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Dunn
Around 10/17. On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:50:10PM +1000, Reuben Farrelly wrote: On 8/09/2008 8:43 PM, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote: David, please check CSCsu35584, it will be fixed in the upcoming 12.4(20)T1 rebuild and the above restriction will be removed.. oli Hi Oli,

[c-nsp] Buffer Tuning pointer?

2008-09-09 Thread Scott Granados
I'm using a 7206 NPE-G1 and noticing a lot of buffer misses. Everything that I find via Google points me to opening a support case but provides very little background information. There's also a buffer tune automatic command but little listed about it's proper use. Does anyone have a good

Re: [c-nsp] 10G Xenpak 'virgin' question

2008-09-09 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Jeff Kell wrote: We're trying to light up our first 10G Xenpak link, so far without success, so I'm looking for a quick sanity check. 3750G-16TD switch with an LR Xenpak [ours], trying to link to a Ciena [not ours] add/drop ONS. What type of optics are in use on both

[c-nsp] can cisco pix boomerang mail traffic?

2008-09-09 Thread Rogelio
Can a Cisco PIX boomerang a packet--i.e. route a packet coming from the internal network that is destined for an Internet host back into the internal network via NAT? I ask because I have have email clients pointing to mail.domain.com, and unless I do a split DNS with my mail A record pointing

Re: [c-nsp] can cisco pix boomerang mail traffic?

2008-09-09 Thread Raul Lopez Nevot
Hello, On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can a Cisco PIX boomerang a packet--i.e. route a packet coming from the internal network that is destined for an Internet host back into the internal network via NAT? I ask because I have have email clients pointing to

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Kristian Larsson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 04:04:46AM -0400, Alex Balashov wrote: Just to be clear, in case it isn't, I was not referring to how the ACLs are organised from the user perspective, presentation-wise, but rather I was surprised that they are not all put into an optimised data structure on the

[c-nsp] Monitoring CPU punted traffic

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Fitzwater
I am running 720CXL with SXH code and am trying to monitor the punted traffic to the RP so that I can confirm what actually gets punted to it. It appears to show packets but not positive I have configured it correctly. Has anyone else used this tool? The doc states that when using the

Re: [c-nsp] iBGP Multi-link question

2008-09-09 Thread Adam Greene
Jeff, it just occurred to me that I did this in an eBGP environment, not iBGP as you were asking ... - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Cartier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [c-nsp]

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Kristian Larsson wrote: Cisco IOS (without the firewall feature set) doesn't really support stateful firewalls, but is rather a fixed set of filters applied to packets. PIX / ASA does stateful packet inspection and some other mumbo jumbo that security people like to have. I think that would

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread sthaug
I have no clue whether they're actually faster or not at filtering packets. Can PIX/ASA filter 10 Gig minimum sized packets at line rate (like many core routers can)? I notice the data sheet for the ASA 5580-40 claims 10 Gbps (real-world HTTP), 20 Gbps (jumbo frames) - but there's no mention of

Re: [c-nsp] NPE G1, CEF and ACLs and high CPU

2008-09-09 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Łukasz Bromirski wrote: Kristian Larsson wrote: I have no clue whether they're actually faster or not at filtering packets. They are. Statefully filtering and inspecting packets requires a lot of horsepower, and CPUs in ASAs are much beefier than the ones You can spot on ISRs or 7200. NAT

[c-nsp] WLC 4402 routing

2008-09-09 Thread Jonathan Charles
I have a 4402 with two subnets, voice and data... and a management interface. This is a remote site and the AAA server is at the HQ... There is no IP address on the service port, but the WLC will not let me add a route to get to the AAA server... I do not have another subnet to use... Why can't

[c-nsp] BGP Route Selection

2008-09-09 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
Cisco RSP4+ (R5000) processor with 262144K/2072K bytes of memory. Slave in slot 3 is running Cisco IOS Software, RSP Software (RSP-IK91SV-M), Version 12.2(25)S12, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Hello, I'm bringing up a new BGP peer and am working at tweaking our BGP routing configuration. In

Re: [c-nsp] BGP Route Selection

2008-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday 10 September 2008 11:44:45 Gregory Boehnlein wrote: Can someone explain to me the reason why Path #3 is being chosen over the lower AS-Path #1 and #2 routing choices? Path 3 is the best because it has a higher LOCAL_PREF value (150) vs. that from paths 1 and 2. Cheers, Mark.

Re: [c-nsp] can cisco pix boomerang mail traffic?

2008-09-09 Thread Frank Bulk
We use that, works like a charm. Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raul Lopez Nevot Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:20 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] can cisco pix boomerang mail traffic? Hello, On Tue,