Re: [c-nsp] Network Liberation Movement???

2009-10-31 Thread Peter Hicks
Jay Hennigan wrote: If you're targeting techies pretending to be a techie and are shown to be a sales guy before you make your pitch it's a lot harder sell. And further, DON'T SHOUT ON A WEBSITE, and check your choice of logo :-) Poggs ___

[c-nsp] network rebuild questions

2009-10-31 Thread Bill Desjardins
Hi all, First, sorry a bit long here with a bunch of questions... I have a small ISP (~50 customers) and am in the process of building out a new network. traffic runs ~250Mbit in/out with ~230k PPS in/230k PPS out. 3 providers, all gig uplinks. the network does nothing fancy, no MPLS, no QOS,

Re: [c-nsp] network rebuild questions

2009-10-31 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Nov 1, 2009, at 12:47 AM, Bill Desjardins wrote: this reminded me of a point I forgot to mention.. budget. sup2's are what I can afford. One is better off not building a network at all than building one which doesn't provide the baseline functionality necessary to exert control over

Re: [c-nsp] [j-nsp] Network Liberation Movement???

2009-10-31 Thread christian koch
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Chris Grundemann cgrundem...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 15:15, christian koch c...@sandcastl.es wrote: looks as if its working based on the activity in this thread... I think someone has to actually buy something, because of the chatter, for it

Re: [c-nsp] network rebuild questions

2009-10-31 Thread Bill Desjardins
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: this reminded me of a point I forgot to mention.. budget. sup2's are what I can afford. One is better off not building a network at all than building one which doesn't provide the baseline functionality necessary to

Re: [c-nsp] network rebuild questions

2009-10-31 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Bill Desjardins wrote: I dont see the point that all of sudden I am going to be in despair and grief with modestly better hardware and a much improved network architecture. Sounds as if your network hasn't been seriously attacked, either directly or as a

[c-nsp] IOS 12.2(52)SE + REP - 3560G

2009-10-31 Thread Mark Tinka
Hi all. Anyone else seeing a 100%+ jump in CPU utilization on a 3560G upgraded from IOS 12.2(44)SE2 to 12.2(52)SE? Average CPU utilization sat at 5%. Since the upgrade, we're seeing 11% - 12% I'm suspecting the REP LSL Hello PP software process as that's chewing up a bit of CPU time. I can't

Re: [c-nsp] Latest iteration of core upgrade - questions

2009-10-31 Thread Rick Ernst
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Mark Tinka mti...@globaltransit.netwrote: On Friday 30 October 2009 12:21:02 am Rick Ernst wrote: - We do have some peering, but it was originally designed at the customer/aggregation layer. Do you mean at or in? As in, do you have a dedicated peering

Re: [c-nsp] network rebuild questions

2009-10-31 Thread Bill Desjardins
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: Sounds as if your network hasn't been seriously attacked, either directly or as a result of collateral damage - yet. Its been attacked, but luckily never enough to tear it down (knock knock..:). I have lots of acl's on