[c-nsp] MC-LAG Sw with 7600 to ALU 7750

2013-03-16 Thread zaid
Hi I  have Cisco-Backbone and ALU new backbone, I want to move the customers to ALU, I’m thinking to multi-home the switch ( MC-LAG) that our customers connected through with new network dose the mc-lag right solution ? any recommendation .   BR HZ

Re: [c-nsp] SYSTEM_CONTROLLER / Cisco 7606

2013-03-16 Thread Ahmed Hilmy
Hello Devon My router is running out of warranty so i can't contact TAC, what do you think about IOS upgrade ? On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Devon True de...@noved.org wrote: Ahmed, Hello Devon, Kindly, find below output: #remote command switch show bootvar BOOT variable =

Re: [c-nsp] entry-level 10gbps for exchange

2013-03-16 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, randal k wrote: I love 6500s, but their Netflow sucks. So use that 6500 towards the IX but use optical splitters towards one of those PCs you were talking about and try to find something that'll look at the traffic and do netflow export of it (or sFlow). As far as I

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Joe, Any thoughts on what I am seeing? I haven't seen anything like it before. I don't know what you are seeing, but I am building a similar setup at the moment (6500-Sup2t VSS + 5548 vPC) so I would be very interested if you find anything. My current problem is doing VPLS on the VSS, but

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
HI Sander. I will let you know if I find anything that tells me what is going on. Thanks Joe On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Sander Steffann san...@steffann.nlwrote: Hi Joe, Any thoughts on what I am seeing? I haven't seen anything like it before. I don't know what you are seeing,

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hi Andrew, No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch and lacp from switch to server so thats what I am putting in. Any thoughts on why the 2960's ports would turn up even with the 5010's

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Andrew Miehs
The port channel would be up as soon as one of the interfaces is up using static port-channels. Which interfaces are you using on the 2960? I know you have probably checked, but do they stay up when you remove the cables? You don't have any like no negotiate auto enabled on the interfaces? What

Re: [c-nsp] SYSTEM_CONTROLLER / Cisco 7606

2013-03-16 Thread Devon True
Ahmed, Hello Devon My router is running out of warranty so i can't contact TAC, what do you think about IOS upgrade ? Jared's original advice is sound and he knows his stuff. =) We recently got hit by bug CSCtx31177, causing our Sup720-3BXLs to reboot in our 7600 routers. We were running

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hey Andrew, Last night we removed one of the fibers on a port-channel that was showing up and re-inserted it. The link stayed down/down. I decided then to stop until I had a chance to do more research and try to figure out why the interfaces and port-channels were coming up with the other side

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 03/16/2013 03:28 PM, Joseph Hardeman wrote: Hi Andrew, No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch FWIW I've heard that advice before - indeed, it was in the Cisco Enterprise/Campus

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:28:42AM -0400, Joseph Hardeman wrote: No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch and lacp from switch to server so thats what I am putting in. That was

[c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread harbor235
Can anyone provide insight into how to defeat DNS amplification attacks? thanks, Mike ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread John van Oppen
That was years ago, and is not good advice today. Propably wasn't good advice then, but that depends on how many years ago... Agreed.LACP is the way to go, avoids all kinds of problems. Static mode bundles fall into the same category in my mind as forcing speed/duplex on Ethernet,

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Jared Mauch
Restrict resolvers to your customer networks. Rising tide lifts all ships. And there's a lot to secure, just like open relays and smurf amps Jared Mauch On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:01 PM, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone provide insight into how to defeat DNS amplification

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, Can anyone provide insight into how to defeat DNS amplification attacks? Restrict resolvers to your customer networks. And deploy RPF Regards, Robert ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Antonio Soares
It's very easy to bring down a network when configuring channel-mode on. If we do it first on the root switch, the spanning-tree loop is already there. Someone that wrote about this and explains some scenarios: http://www.dasblinkenlichten.com/?p=684 channel-mode on is very bad and dangerous. I

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Sander Steffann
Restrict resolvers to your customer networks. And if you have authoritative DNSSEC zones or other zones with large answers it might be a good idea to look at rate limiting the authoritative servers: http://www.redbarn.org/dns/ratelimits - Sander

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 16 Mar 2013, Robert Joosten wrote: Hi, Can anyone provide insight into how to defeat DNS amplification attacks? Restrict resolvers to your customer networks. And deploy RPF uRPF / BCP38 is really the only solution. Even if we did close all the open recursion DNS servers (which

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread David Rothera
Depends on whether you want to defeat being the person being attacked or the person being tricked into being the person doing the amplification attack. For stopping being attacked without taking services from your upstream provider the only thing you can do really is police DNS traffic as uRPF

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Laurent Geyer
Curious, how does uRPF help under this scenario? Although the source address is spoofed, the target is stil valid destination address. — Laurent On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:38 PM, David Rothera david.roth...@gmail.com wrote: Depends on whether you want to defeat being the person being attacked

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Jon Lewis
uRPF stops your network from initiating such attacks. Closing down your open recursive DNS servers stops you from being used / participating in the attacks. Other than having infinite bandwidth capacity, there's not much you can do to defend against being attacked by a DNS amplification

Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification

2013-03-16 Thread Steven Fischer
yes - and it presumes your DNS servers are based on Linux and use IPTables. http://www.cryptonizer.com/dnsamp.html http://serverfault.com/questions/418810/public-facing-recursive-dns-servers-iptables-rules

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hi Gert, I was thinking about it today and it was only last year that I got this advice from the CCIE we were working with at the time. I should have questioned his recommendation and kept using the mode auto like I had been doing. Joe On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Gert Doering

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Andrew Miehs
The cisco documentation recommends static as the recovery times are supposedly faster due to no negotiation. Not really sure if the downsides make up for that though. Sent from a mobile device On 17/03/2013, at 11:31, Joseph Hardeman jwharde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gert, I was thinking

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Jeff Kell
On 3/16/2013 8:34 PM, Andrew Miehs wrote: The cisco documentation recommends static as the recovery times are supposedly faster due to no negotiation. Not really sure if the downsides make up for that though. Yeah, you can screw up your network much faster that way :) We had been doing PAgP

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Reuben Farrelly
Using that logic you could probably also argue recovery time would be even quicker again by disabling Spanning Tree entirely. Funnily enough, not too many people seem to recommend completely disabling STP to achieve that goal though. Reuben On 17/03/2013 11:34 AM, Andrew Miehs wrote: The