Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Gert Doering via cisco-nsp
Hi, On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 08:21:01PM +, Phil Bedard wrote: > The newer software is packaged that way already, if you don?t need SMUs. If > you want to customize it with SMUs and whatnot it takes a few minutes, > depends on your processor and storage speed of course. The question was not

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
The newer software is packaged that way already, if you don’t need SMUs. If you want to customize it with SMUs and whatnot it takes a few minutes, depends on your processor and storage speed of course. Thanks, Phil On 2/26/23, 11:18 AM, "Gert Doering" wrote: Hi, On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Gert Doering via cisco-nsp
Hi, On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 02:29:13PM +, Phil Bedard wrote: > XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a ?golden ISO?. It?s a > single image either built by Cisco or customers can build their own that > include the base software and the SMUs in a single image. You just issue a

Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-26 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/26/23 16:44, Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp wrote: Well, not so in practice. You can't issue install from http:// or any other remote URL. You have to sit around and issue "install apply" after "install replace" is finished. Replace is async so you have to sit around and poll the

[c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-26 Thread Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp
hey, XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a “golden ISO”. It’s a single image either built by Cisco or customers can build their own that include the base software and the SMUs in a single image. You just issue a single “install replace myiso.iso” and that’s it. Well, not so

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/26/23 16:29, Phil Bedard wrote: SMUs were a good idea, but not really great in practice.  Most customers I work with do not want to manage application level patches, just entire images, even in cases where they are just a process restart. XR for a number of years now has had the

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Mark Tinka via cisco-nsp
On 2/26/23 16:21, Phil Bedard wrote: Ok well there are a number those as well. The 55A2 and newer 57C3 also support a number of 100G ports. I quite don’t fully understand the “verbose architecture” comment.  I’ve used a lot of router operating systems, Junos since 1999, SROS, XR, XE, you

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
SMUs were a good idea, but not really great in practice. Most customers I work with do not want to manage application level patches, just entire images, even in cases where they are just a process restart. XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a “golden ISO”. It’s a single

Re: [c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

2023-02-26 Thread Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
Ok well there are a number those as well. The 55A2 and newer 57C3 also support a number of 100G ports. I quite don’t fully understand the “verbose architecture” comment. I’ve used a lot of router operating systems, Junos since 1999, SROS, XR, XE, you name it, and there isn’t a whole lot of