Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-28 Thread Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
With XR7 the idea was to mimic how things are done with Linux repos by having a specific RPM repo for the routers and the patches which is managed similar to Linux and that’s how all software is packaged now. Dependencies are resolved automatically, etc. RPMs are installed as atomic

Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-28 Thread Phil Bedard via cisco-nsp
Yes there are some various differences depending on what versions you are using. You can, at least in later versions use install replace with http, at least with GISO. You also do not need the apply command, and you can include “commit” in the replace command so it’s not required after the

Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-28 Thread Gert Doering via cisco-nsp
Hi, On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 08:33:47AM -0800, William McCall via cisco-nsp wrote: > My long-term solution to this problem is to install with iPXE. That lets > you do it via HTTP and without all the nonsense :) This sounds like a fairly long downtime to do upgrades... not exactly what I want

Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-28 Thread William McCall via cisco-nsp
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 6:45 AM Tarko Tikan via cisco-nsp < cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote: > hey, > > > XR for a number of years now has had the concept of a “golden ISO”. > > It’s a single image either built by Cisco or customers can build > > their own that include the base software and the

Re: [c-nsp] NCS IOS-XR rant (was:Re: Internet border router recommendations and experiences)

2023-02-28 Thread Steve Mikulasik via cisco-nsp
Cisco's method for rolling out updates (basically stuck in the 90s) is becoming more and more of a liability. When evaluating vendors I have started to place high importance in how they handle updates as there is less and less tolerance for leaving anything in a unpatched state for very long.