Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-19 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 19/09/2012 02:42, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: You forgot the consequences of getting some other element of the config wrong because you were preoccupied with the MD5 key. I'll take simplicity every time. One good use for MD5 is to stop people at Internet Exchanges from hijacking old bgp

Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-18 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net writes: On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: An extra knob, an extra data point to be collected, managed, (and possibly get wrong) as a proxy for are you sure? [y/N] is a huge step away from goodness. Given that the consequences of

Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-16 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net writes: On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: The general advice is still to use copp or acls to deprioritise unknown bgp traffic. Gtsm can help in some situations, particularly at Ixps. Otherwise md5 is a matter of choice. Some people like

Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-15 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 14 Sep 2012, at 20:59, John Brown j...@citylinkfiber.com wrote: I remember reading / hearing that using a BGP password could cause a DDOS vulnerability with Cisco and other vendor devices. The problem related to how ios handled md5 checksums. Turned out that the md5 check was calculated

Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-15 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:58 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: The general advice is still to use copp or acls to deprioritise unknown bgp traffic. Gtsm can help in some situations, particularly at Ixps. Otherwise md5 is a matter of choice. Some people like it; others don't. Concur. There are no

[c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-14 Thread John Brown
Hi Folks, I remember reading / hearing that using a BGP password could cause a DDOS vulnerability with Cisco and other vendor devices. Any words of wisdom here ?? Thanks ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ?

2012-09-14 Thread Chuck Church
/guide/gt_btsh.html Chuck -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Brown Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:00 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] BGP MD5 DDOS ? Hi Folks, I remember reading