Re: [c-nsp] ISP response and traffic billing for DDOS

2007-09-10 Thread Hock Jim
Just want to drop a note of gratitude to all who replied me online and offline. Think the general consensus of this straw poll is that: 1. yes, ddos traffic is and should be chargable, and rightly so, to be fair to ISPs 2. *simple* filtering of ddos traffic should a ISP obligation, and

Re: [c-nsp] ISP response and traffic billing for DDOS

2007-09-10 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 10, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Hock Jim wrote: 1. yes, ddos traffic is and should be chargable, and rightly so, to be fair to ISPs This is actually one of the strongest rationales for customers to consider purchasing 'Clean Pipes'-type DDoS mitigation services from their SP(s), second in

Re: [c-nsp] ISP response and traffic billing for DDOS

2007-09-03 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 10:58:21AM +0800, Hock Jim wrote: Sorry for being slightly off-topic, but hoping to seek some advise on what is typically the case for ISP response in the case of a DDOS. In the case of a DDOS attack that saturates an upstream, typically: 1. will the ISP charge

Re: [c-nsp] ISP response and traffic billing for DDOS

2007-09-03 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 3 Sep 2007, at 03:58, Hock Jim wrote: Sorry for being slightly off-topic, but hoping to seek some advise on what is typically the case for ISP response in the case of a DDOS. its fine but check out nanog which is more Internet operational than here.. In the case of a DDOS attack that

[c-nsp] ISP response and traffic billing for DDOS

2007-09-02 Thread Hock Jim
Hello all, Sorry for being slightly off-topic, but hoping to seek some advise on what is typically the case for ISP response in the case of a DDOS. In the case of a DDOS attack that saturates an upstream, typically: 1. will the ISP charge (based on 95% percentile) for the days or hours where the