Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-05-12 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello List, Let me bounce on this thread again as I am seriously thinking about implementing uRPF loose mode / RTBH on our backbone. We have been taking on some DDoS recently, Internet is a bitch ;-) I was thinking enabling it on the interfaces towards my : - Upstream Providers, - Peerings, -

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-05-12 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/12/2010 10:55 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: We have a bunch 6509s acting as core routers and a bunch of 7204VXRs (NPE-400 / NPE-G1) acting as LNS border routers. Problem Is : I am concerned about performance issues. Is uRPF a big consumer of CPU / Memory ? On 6500, I believe the

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-05-12 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 12, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 05/12/2010 10:55 AM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: We have a bunch 6509s acting as core routers and a bunch of 7204VXRs (NPE-400 / NPE-G1) acting as LNS border routers. Problem Is : I am concerned about performance issues. Is uRPF a big

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-05-12 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hey, Our 6509 boxes are equiped with SUP720-3BXLs, so it shouldn't be a problem. I am more concerned about the 7204VXRs equiped with NPE-400s or NPE-G1s. I haven't been able to find docs on the Internet related the URPF impact on performances. Thanks. Y. 2010/5/12 Jared Mauch

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday 12 May 2010 11:30:20 pm Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: I am more concerned about the 7204VXRs equiped with NPE-400s or NPE-G1s. I haven't been able to find docs on the Internet related the URPF impact on performances. We've had a couple of NPE-G1's/G2's and we run both loose

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday 08 April 2010 08:48:39 pm Steve Bertrand wrote: I guess what I'm trying to say is that enabling it is good,... Agree. and I've never run into any situation where enabling loose mode has caused problems. The only problem we've had is when peering privately with other

[c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Reuben Farrelly
I've been reading up about uRPF on Cisco's website, at: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t13/feature/guide/ft_urpf.html I've heard many people suggest that having uRPF filtering on in an ISP environment is a good idea (and best practice). However I'm grappling with the idea in

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Apr 8, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Reuben Farrelly wrote: 1. Given the global routing table is increasing and there is not all that much unallocated/non-routed IP networks left (and thus fewer invalid source addresses to draw from), is uRPF much of an advantage in todays ISP/IPv4 networks? It

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Daniel Kratz
Reuben, In my opinion, the major gain is when deployed uRPF Loose Mode on border routers is the possibility to drop traffic based on blackhole for source address or source network flows. You may point local static route to null or use a router-server to feed this. Depending of you creativity you

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Frederic LOUI
As mentioned before, it still can be useful and necessary if you want to deploy some central filtering mechanism RTBH or variant. More detailed here (As a start): http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/blackhole.pdf After having activated uRPF in loose mode you can verify if

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.04.08 06:46, Reuben Farrelly wrote: I've been reading up about uRPF on Cisco's website, at: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t13/feature/guide/ft_urpf.html I've heard many people suggest that having uRPF filtering on in an ISP environment is a good idea (and best

Re: [c-nsp] Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding - Loose Mode

2010-04-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.04.08 08:48, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.04.08 06:46, Reuben Farrelly wrote: I've been reading up about uRPF on Cisco's website, at: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t13/feature/guide/ft_urpf.html I've heard many people suggest that having uRPF filtering on in an ISP