Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-20 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Can the n5k, n7k do pagp+ yet? No, unfortunately not. We're using a c2960G for pagp+ because of that... Sander ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-19 Thread Andrew Miehs
Can the n5k, n7k do pagp+ yet? Sent from a mobile device On 20/03/2013, at 14:25, Ian Henderson i...@ianh.net.au wrote: On 17/03/2013, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: We had been doing PAgP on Cisco-to-Cisco, but leaning toward LACP today for anything that supports it.

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-19 Thread Ian Henderson
On 17/03/2013, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: We had been doing PAgP on Cisco-to-Cisco, but leaning toward LACP today for anything that supports it. In our VSS clusters (Sup2T), we're using PAgP where possible, and LACP to everything else. PAgP offers dual-active detection

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-17 Thread Pete Templin
On 3/16/13 5:34 PM, Andrew Miehs wrote: The cisco documentation recommends static as the recovery times are supposedly faster due to no negotiation. Not really sure if the downsides make up for that though. Who really cares if the recovery times are faster? If you are recovering, your link

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-17 Thread Sander Steffann
Who really cares if the recovery times are faster? If you are recovering, your link was down and will soon be up. You're not trying to change the fact that it was down, and you don't want the up to be half-butted. With LACP, you might see the link go down more often due to its ability to

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Joe, Any thoughts on what I am seeing? I haven't seen anything like it before. I don't know what you are seeing, but I am building a similar setup at the moment (6500-Sup2t VSS + 5548 vPC) so I would be very interested if you find anything. My current problem is doing VPLS on the VSS, but

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
HI Sander. I will let you know if I find anything that tells me what is going on. Thanks Joe On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Sander Steffann san...@steffann.nlwrote: Hi Joe, Any thoughts on what I am seeing? I haven't seen anything like it before. I don't know what you are seeing,

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hi Andrew, No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch and lacp from switch to server so thats what I am putting in. Any thoughts on why the 2960's ports would turn up even with the 5010's

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Andrew Miehs
The port channel would be up as soon as one of the interfaces is up using static port-channels. Which interfaces are you using on the 2960? I know you have probably checked, but do they stay up when you remove the cables? You don't have any like no negotiate auto enabled on the interfaces? What

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hey Andrew, Last night we removed one of the fibers on a port-channel that was showing up and re-inserted it. The link stayed down/down. I decided then to stop until I had a chance to do more research and try to figure out why the interfaces and port-channels were coming up with the other side

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 03/16/2013 03:28 PM, Joseph Hardeman wrote: Hi Andrew, No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch FWIW I've heard that advice before - indeed, it was in the Cisco Enterprise/Campus

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:28:42AM -0400, Joseph Hardeman wrote: No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me that use mode on from switch to switch and lacp from switch to server so thats what I am putting in. That was

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread John van Oppen
That was years ago, and is not good advice today. Propably wasn't good advice then, but that depends on how many years ago... Agreed.LACP is the way to go, avoids all kinds of problems. Static mode bundles fall into the same category in my mind as forcing speed/duplex on Ethernet,

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Antonio Soares
: sábado, 16 de Março de 2013 18:37 To: Joseph Hardeman Cc: cisco-nsp Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel Hi, On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:28:42AM -0400, Joseph Hardeman wrote: No actually they are configured as mode on no LACP. I spoke with a CCIE a couple of years ago and he told me

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hi Gert, I was thinking about it today and it was only last year that I got this advice from the CCIE we were working with at the time. I should have questioned his recommendation and kept using the mode auto like I had been doing. Joe On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Gert Doering

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Andrew Miehs
The cisco documentation recommends static as the recovery times are supposedly faster due to no negotiation. Not really sure if the downsides make up for that though. Sent from a mobile device On 17/03/2013, at 11:31, Joseph Hardeman jwharde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gert, I was thinking

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Jeff Kell
On 3/16/2013 8:34 PM, Andrew Miehs wrote: The cisco documentation recommends static as the recovery times are supposedly faster due to no negotiation. Not really sure if the downsides make up for that though. Yeah, you can screw up your network much faster that way :) We had been doing PAgP

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-16 Thread Reuben Farrelly
Using that logic you could probably also argue recovery time would be even quicker again by disabling Spanning Tree entirely. Funnily enough, not too many people seem to recommend completely disabling STP to achieve that goal though. Reuben On 17/03/2013 11:34 AM, Andrew Miehs wrote: The

[c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-15 Thread Joseph Hardeman
Hi Everyone, I saw a very strange thing tonight while putting some vPC ports to a some access switches. So my Topology is a VSS stack to a pair of 5010 over vPC. I then have an active vPC from the 5010's to one 2960G port-channel. I now have this connected to several other 2960G's that are

Re: [c-nsp] VSS to vPC - vPC to Etherchannel

2013-03-15 Thread Andrew Miehs
How did you configure the port channels? I assume you have configured them to use lacp? Show etherchannel summary shows? Sent from a mobile device On 16/03/2013, at 13:14, Joseph Hardeman jwharde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I saw a very strange thing tonight while putting some vPC