[c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
I have a blackhole security device injecting routes into my internet boundary asr9k.. I see that the bgp prefixes are rcv'd on my 9k and the are installed in the per-vrf rib. The next hop for those routes are via a directly connected interface towards the blackhole.. But for some reason I

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
(x.x.x.x is one of the /32 blackhole routes) Oh and when I do this on that boundary 9k traceroute x.x.x.x vrf xyz source y.y.y.y it appears to NOT follow the default route out to the internet and it seems that it does follow the more specific blackhole route. why would mpls l3vpn located

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
Yes mpls core. Traceroute on pc- LER1 mpls core-LER2- internet | Blackhole Yes LER1 doesn't not have those /32 blackhole routes it does have the def rt towards internet via LER2.

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
No label to the blackhole? If LER1 isn't getting the routes how is it going to build the LSP to the blackhole? On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote: Yes mpls core. Traceroute on pc- LER1 mpls core-LER2- internet

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
If ler1 flows everything via 0/0 lsp towards ler2, doesn't ler2 pop all mpls tags prior to routing out towards internet via def rt ?. if so couldn't a more specific routing decision be made at that point towards blackhole /32 routes ? Aaron p.s. Why was vanilla ip forwarding more

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
It can't and it won't. This is a nice gotcha for MPLS, we where pulling our hair for a while until we got it in our heads that MPLS packets are not processed at every L3-hop. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Aaron dudep...@gmail.com wrote: No label to the blackhole? If LER1 isn't getting the

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
Hmmm, thanks. I really would prefer not to send all 1,000+ blackhole routes to all of my customer-facing pe's..(me3600's and asr901's) . is there another way whereas I make that blackhole decision on that boundary 9k? Aaron From: LavoJM [mailto:lav...@secureobscure.com] Sent:

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
I'm 100% on this but. Are they destined for the remote end of the link they might not get processed. But if they are destined for the loopback of LER2 then they should. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote: If ler1 flows everything via 0/0 lsp towards ler2, doesn't

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
The bh routes *are* on the border machine. The border machine is the 9k I’m talking about….it’s a mpls l3vpn pe and internet exit point. I understand that mpls pdu’s aren’t l3 processed at typical lsr swap locations… but it’s I guess sort of bothersome to me that at the this border node

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
The next hop of those bh routes is an ip address on the distant end of a layer 2 segment which is connected to that border asr9k Aaron From: Mattias Gyllenvarg [mailto:matt...@gyllenvarg.se] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:27 PM To: Aaron Cc: Aaron; cisco-nsp; LavoJM Subject: Re:

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
The internet routes are the relevant ones. Do they point too lo0 or remote end? Im sure one of the knights of the round table (Gert, Oliver, Adam etc) could answer about L3 processing at the end point. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote: The next hop of those bh

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-08-15 14:35 -0500), Aaron wrote: The next hop of those bh routes is an ip address on the distant end of a layer 2 segment which is connected to that border asr9k Your popped label has L2 rewrite information, so no IP lookup is required. In VRF you can force single label for whole

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
Internet routes? I have only one…. Yours truly 0/0 ….I learn one route via ebgp from my upstream provider… 0/0 I learn 1,000+ other routes via ebgp (multiphop serveral hops away) from another neighbor….this is the blackhole appliance injecting bgp routes into my same internet border asr9k…

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Mattias Gyllenvarg
Yeah, then its the next hop of the 0/0 thats relevant. How many routes do you have in ibgp then? Sounds like very few... On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote: Internet routes? I have only one…. Yours truly 0/0 ….I learn one route via ebgp from my upstream provider…

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Aaron
Thanks folks, as usual, very helpful… I went back to the way I tested this a while back… simply redis bgp learned bh routes into ospf, and then ospf is already redis’d at a multihomed ce-pe location…. That’s it, now the 1,000+ routes show up in all the pe’s… customer facing pe’s and internet

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Blake Dunlap
There are a good many ways to deal with this. What you need to do is read up and make sure you understand what the labels are actually pointing to and what that means for the forwarding process, especially on a hardware platform like your endpoint in question. This isn't one of those tell me how

Re: [c-nsp] why are packets not following the more specific route - xr 4.1.2 (asr9k)

2013-08-15 Thread Ross Halliday
There are a good many ways to deal with this. What you need to do is read up and make sure you understand what the labels are actually pointing to and what that means for the forwarding process, especially on a hardware platform like your endpoint in question. This isn't one of those tell