Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-28 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
FAHAD ALI KHAN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Friday, March 28, 2008 6:45 AM: Now im introducing Cisco products as PE only, to offer MPLS VPN services to Broadband clients...everything with cisco is going goodbut this seems to be little bit scalability issue in our caseif we have

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-27 Thread FAHAD ALI KHAN
Dear Oli Let me clear my scenarioSince my Core Bw is not symetrical...i need to do TE and force some Traffic to go against IGP rules. Current Juniper based RSVP tunnels doing things good...and i can forced VPN traffic to TE tunnel by creating policy filter (route map) by just matching VPN RT

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-25 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 05:00:57PM -0700, bill fumerola wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 04:39:24PM -0400, Matthew Crocker wrote: Isn't Cisco doing away with all the routers based off the FPGA code? NSE-100, 7301, NSE-1 *very* fast when the packets can be handled in PXF, not so

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-25 Thread Kevin Graham
There seems to be some confusion between 7301 and 7304. Cisco has never known what to call the 1RU 7200 -- 7401, 7301, 7201; given their own confusion, its only to be expected elsewhere. I guess the only reprieve is there won't ever be another one. 7304 (either NSE or NPE) has been on its

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-24 Thread bill fumerola
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 04:39:24PM -0400, Matthew Crocker wrote: Isn't Cisco doing away with all the routers based off the FPGA code? NSE-100, 7301, NSE-1 *very* fast when the packets can be handled in PXF, not so good when they can't. i'd be interested in any documentation or

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-20 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
FAHAD ALI KHAN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:04 AM: Oli autoroute announce will send all the traffic (IGP + VPN) towards tunnel, where as i dont want to send IGP traffic but only VPN traffic. Is there any way.well u say static...managment of static

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-19 Thread FAHAD ALI KHAN
Here is the working configuration when i disable LDP from Juniper core interfaces (fe-0/0/0 fe-0/0/1)...MPLS VPNs sites get disconnected C10K#sh run ip vrf vpn1 description Test VPN 1 rd 1241:100 route-target export 1241:100 route-target import 1241:100 ! mpls traffic-eng tunnels mpls

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-19 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Well, you are not telling the headend (10K or 7200) what to forward down the tunnel. Without any tunnel mpls traffic-eng autoroute announce or static routes or forwarding-adjacency, no traffic will be sent over the tunnel, so the IGP path towards the BGP next-hop will still point to your outgoing

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-19 Thread FAHAD ALI KHAN
Oli *autoroute announce* will send all the traffic (IGP + VPN) towards tunnel, where as i dont want to send IGP traffic but only VPN traffic. Is there any way.well u say static...managment of static will b a great hurdle in routing of 1000s of VPNs routes... Is there any solution, to this

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-17 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Hi, I've never ran any form of MPLS without LDP on the interface, but if you're using RSVP-TE, LDP on the physical interfaces should not be needed. Can you show your working and your not-working config? The decision which path (LDP or RSVP-TE signalled path) is taken by the headend depends on

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-17 Thread jp
Another option would be to get something that does OC3 ports (or bigger) and lets you map out DS1s to subinterfaces. Not sure what Cisco cards would be appropriate. Something like an Adtran opti system, and appropriate cisco card, you could run an OC3/12/48 into your Cisco. I'm sure Adtran

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10K MPLS VPN

2008-03-17 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday 17 March 2008, FAHAD ALI KHAN wrote: Guys Hello. Im stuck in configuring MPLS L3VPN in Cisco + juniper in my test lab environment. As Oli has suggested, a copy of your configurations on both IOS and JunOS would help. Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-14 Thread Rooney, Randy
10008 for us has been a typical cisco platform. Get on the right code and it's stable. I'm assuming by 8 port channelized card you mean two HH 4 port cards? Just note that AToM isn't supported on that card, only the 6 port, choc12, and 24 port T1 card per the website. Haven't actually tested in

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-14 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008, Joseph Jackson wrote: Do you get wire speed out of those GigE ports? I remember reading some where that the G1 could only push around 750mbs. I can't find the info now so I might just be crazy. I don't have any G1/G2's in production. I'm just going off the

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-14 Thread Jason Berenson
Adrian, We push much more voice over our links so I would worry more about PPS then wire speed on the GigE. I'm leaning towards upgrading our NPE-300's to G1's and keep things split up a bit. One reason is I wouldn't have to learn a new platform and I would know that everything I'm doing

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-14 Thread Paul Stewart
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:32 PM To: Joseph Jackson Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k? On Fri, Mar 14, 2008, Joseph Jackson wrote: Do you get wire speed out of those GigE ports? I remember reading some

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Justin Shore
I've never used a 10k so someone else will have to speak to that. You might want to consider looking at the new ASR 1000 series though. http://www.cisco.com/go/asr They are supposed to be positioned between the 7200s and the 7600s so they might be able to do what you want. I imagine they can

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Jason Berenson
Mathew, Thanks for your input. We've looked at the Turin solution already, it looks really good except they're a year off on getting the blade out to customers. If we went that route we would want to use a blade instead of separate boxes. -Jason Matthew Crocker wrote: Jason, If you

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Jason Berenson
Can you elaborate on that a bit? Thanks, Jason e ninja wrote: c10k is a beast. You're better of with the VXRs. /eninja On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Jason Berenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, We currently have 3 7206VXRs with NPE-300's in

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Sridhar Ayengar
Jason Berenson wrote: Can you elaborate on that a bit? I believe he might be referring to the power consumption. Peace... Sridhar e ninja wrote: c10k is a beast. You're better of with the VXRs. /eninja On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Jason Berenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Jason Berenson
Justin, I'm not worried too much about the size, I have room and on top of that it will replace 3+ 7206's. I do however have the option of just upgrading the 7206's to NPE-G1's, adding more chassis as needed and calling it a day. I'm trying to make a decision now before things get too out of

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Jason Berenson wrote: The big advantages I can see is moving to a single chassis (one router to manage), it's a much more powerful router then the 7206's and on a per channelized DS3 port basis, it's half the price per port. With all that in mind, would you suggest

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Jason Berenson
Justin, Thanks for your input. That's a good point and something I will have to research before going any further with this. Thanks, Jason Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Jason Berenson wrote: The big advantages I can see is moving to a single chassis (one router to

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi We migrated from 7206 VXRs to 10k for broadband termination. I must say that that caused us a lot of trouble. The 10k proved to be very unstable, leaking memory etc. Of course that might be just our experience. We tried different IOSes, opened a few TAC cases, but ultimately decided to go with

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Matthew Crocker
Doesn't the 10k use Ciscos FPGA chips (aka PXF)? So if a feature isn't in the FPGA code it gets punted to the main CPU and performance goes to hell? Isn't Cisco doing away with all the routers based off the FPGA code? NSE-100, 7301, NSE-1 *very* fast when the packets can be handled in

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Paul Stewart
upgrade from a performance spec Take care, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:39 PM To: Jason Berenson Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k? Doesn't the 10k

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Sridhar Ayengar
Jason Berenson wrote: Justin, I'm not worried too much about the size, I have room and on top of that it will replace 3+ 7206's. I do however have the option of just upgrading the 7206's to NPE-G1's, adding more chassis as needed and calling it a day. I'm trying to make a decision

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Sridhar Ayengar
Paul Stewart wrote: Hey Jason... I'm curious as to what you decide in the final aspect and why... we have several NPE-1G and NPE-2G boxes right now and I need to order a couple of more to meet capacity needs (DSL termination via PPPOE)... we were also looking at the 10k series and also took

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: Anyways, just wanted to chime in letting you know you're definitely not the only person facing these issues ; ) I would definitely upgrade to NPE-1G or 2G if it's in budget though as that will be a significant upgrade from a performance

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 10k?

2008-03-13 Thread Sridhar Ayengar
Adrian Chadd wrote: Anyways, just wanted to chime in letting you know you're definitely not the only person facing these issues ; ) I would definitely upgrade to NPE-1G or 2G if it's in budget though as that will be a significant upgrade from a performance spec But doesn't the 7200 (and