Re: [c-nsp] BGP and HSRP

2007-05-10 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey,

 We get a new location with 2 internet upstreams and I'd like to run HSRP
 for fail-over. There is a bit of a strange topology though...
 My carriers gave me 2x2 /30 for two BGP sessions so I can run on both
 routers a full table BGP session to each of them. The problem(?) is that
 behind those two routers, there is one router who wants to announce some
 iBGP stuff to them. If I run HSRP on the LAN side, is it possible to
 make a peering to the virtual HSRP IP? How would BGP handle this or
 wouldn't this work at all?

Don't peer with HSRP virtual address. Just use loopbacks and make 2 iBGP 
sessions from the 3rd router into first two.

-- 
tarko
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Re: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem

2007-05-10 Thread Alexander Koch
For the records - we use 3750 cross- stack even with
12.2.25SEC (yeah, dusty by now, but the first version that
supported that) and they just work, and they absolutely work
fine.

-ako

On Wed, 9 May 2007 16:52:00 -0700, Mike Lydick wrote:
 I had a similar issue when trying to turn up port channels that span across 
 stack 3750. TAC recommends not using PAGP or LACP. Have not gotten it work 
 since. Is this similar to your scenerio? Any resolution?
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Dan Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Collins, Richard (SNL US) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 7:31:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem
 
 I did exactly that, and managed to get it to go into LACP mode.
 
 The Etherchannel ran for about 3 hours without a problem, then all of a 
 sudden started losing pings all over the place.  I took one channel out 
 of service, and it was fine.
 
 I tested both physical links separately, and they're both perfect.  I'm 
 scared to put them back into the Etherchannel now for fear that they'll 
 fail again.
 
 I am using the single fibre SFPs (the GLC-BX-Us and GLC-BX-Ds) for both 
 of these links.
 
 Anybody seen an Etherchannel lose it when the two underlying physical 
 links are seemingly perfect on their own?
 
 
 
 
 Collins, Richard (SNL US) wrote:
  So I suppose the opposite side was set at the same time to either
  channel-group 10 mode [active or passive] for LACP?
 
  What about additionally setting..
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-protocol lacp 
  I can't test this myself but saw the configuration option.
 
  -Rich
 
 

  Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 02:39:04 -0400
  From: Dan Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
  Riddle me this.
 
  I have 1 physical link, and a port-channel interface operating in PAgP
  
  mode.

  interface GigabitEthernet1/21
  no ip address
  switchport
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk allowed vlan
  
  50,80,119,300-304,349,412,420,440,444,446,447

  switchport trunk allowed vlan add 449,500,503,616,620,900
  switchport mode trunk
  channel-group 10 mode desirable
  end
 
  interface Port-channel10
  no ip address
  switchport
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk allowed vlan
  
  50,80,119,300-304,349,412,420,440,444,446,447

  switchport trunk allowed vlan add 449,500,503,616,620,900
  switchport mode trunk
 
 
  metro2.tor-Front[7609]#sh int po10
  Port-channel10 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
   Hardware is EtherChannel, address is 0015.f91d.5c8e (bia
  
  0015.f91d.5c8e)

   Description: GEC to metro1.tor-Mowat [Port-channel10]
   MTU 9216 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
  reliability 255/255, txload 104/255, rxload 202/255
 
 
  Life was good, then:
 
 
  2 problems.  I first tried to change to LACP:
 
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-group 10 mode ?
   active Enable LACP unconditionally
   auto   Enable PAgP only if a PAgP device is detected
   desirable  Enable PAgP unconditionally
   on Enable Etherchannel only
   passiveEnable LACP only if a LACP device is detected
 
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-group 10 mode active
 
 
  The interface bounced, and went straight back into PAgP mode. 
 
  I tried it several times.  [EMAIL PROTECTED], always back to PAgP. 
  channel-group 10 mode desirable
 
 
  Second problem:
 
  I tried a second link anyway, and when I added a second link into the 
  PAgP group, the rely on the port-channel interface started dropping
  
  like 

  a stone,  packets were dropping all over the place and even though 
  everything seemed to be up, speed, duplex, vlans, configuration 
  perfectly matched between the underlying physical interfaces  the 
  port-channel interface the po interface was a mess.  The new 
  physical link on it's own is clean as a whistle when I setup a test 
  vlan, or set both sides up as routed interfaces
 
  Anybody have any light to shed?
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[c-nsp] radius attributes and L2TP

2007-05-10 Thread MKS
fHello list

We are running several LACs and LNSs using PPPoX in a vdpn setup.
Currently we are using the vendor-tag circuit-id service command to
get the location (DSLAM box,card,line) of xDSL users into the radius
requests and log get request with the login information.

This is working used fine for our customers that we terminate. The
problem is that this information is not forwarded to the LNS, (if we
are no terminating the user).

If I do sh aaa user xxx where xxx is the unique id or a user
terminated on LNS (L2TP forwarded)

On the LAC I get:

---skip---
 Authen: service=PPP type=PAP method=RADIUS
Kerb: No data available
Meth: No data available
Preauth: No Preauth data.
General:
 Unique Id = 0200
 Session Id = 0386
 Attribute List:
   2392F160 0 0001 port-type(189) 4 PPPoE over ATM
   2392F170 0 0009 interface(185) 14 2/0/0/127.1100
   2392F180 0 0009 nas-connect-info(31) 15 1024_AutoDetect
   2392F190 0 0009 client-mac-address(56) 14 00a0..
---skip---

On the LNS I get:

---skip---
General:
 Unique Id = 00558B0B
 Session Id = 00AA7484
 Attribute List:
   21AAE384 0 0001 port-type(157) 4 Virtual Terminal
   21AAE398 0 0009 interface(153) 16 Uniq-Sess-ID2149
   21AAE3AC 0 0009 nas-connect-info(22) 17 company_BRAS
---skip---


The question is:
   Is this feature that I'm asking for available in some software for
the Cisco 7200 platform?
   Any documentation regarding this would be appreciated

   Is it possible to somehow send VSA attributes via L2TP sessions?

I have tried both 12.2-31.SB and 12.4-4 software and no luck.

Regards
MKS
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Re: [c-nsp] L3 switch with MPLS support

2007-05-10 Thread Phil Mayers
Primoz Jeroncic wrote:
 Hi everyone
 
 I'm sorry since this post is not Cisco related, but I hope someone
 might still have some usefull suggestions.
 
 I'm trying to find l3 switch capable of MPLS. Unfortunately
 for some of our PE locations switches like cat6500 or c3750 metro
 our way way too much. So I'm trying to find something in range of
 Cisco 3560 but of course with MPLS support. Does anyone have
 any suggestions for any other then Cisco product, which would fit
 into such range?

Buy a small CPU-based router (cisco 2800 or juniper J-series) and cheap 
L2 switch.
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Re: [c-nsp] L3 switch with MPLS support

2007-05-10 Thread Primoz Jeroncic
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Phil Mayers wrote:

 Primoz Jeroncic wrote:
  Hi everyone
 
  I'm sorry since this post is not Cisco related, but I hope someone
  might still have some usefull suggestions.
 
  I'm trying to find l3 switch capable of MPLS. Unfortunately
  for some of our PE locations switches like cat6500 or c3750 metro
  our way way too much. So I'm trying to find something in range of
  Cisco 3560 but of course with MPLS support. Does anyone have
  any suggestions for any other then Cisco product, which would fit
  into such range?

 Buy a small CPU-based router (cisco 2800 or juniper J-series) and cheap
 L2 switch.

Thanks for this suggestion. Currently I use exactly this config (with
c2800 not Juniper), but I'm somehow still hoping for cheap 1 or 2u
l3 switch solution, even if not from Cisco.
PS: c6500 is out of question for two reason... one it's too expensive
and even if not (refurbished), it's too big sometimes. In small pops
where we have let's say 10 clients, c6500 is really overkill.

Have fun,
Primoz Jeroncic
Support - IP Connectivity  Routing
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Re: [c-nsp] Stable NPE-G2 IOS for SP?

2007-05-10 Thread Mark Taylor
 We've decided to go with multiple 7206VXR/NPE-G2's for our edge routing
 (replacing older NPE-300/400 devices).  We have simple needs -- BGP, OSPF,
 NetFlow, and some small ACLs on the WAN interfaces.  Since the IOS 
 selection for
 the G2 is somewhat limited, if others can share what IOS release has been 
 stable
 for them, it would be appreciated.

We're running 12.2SB for similar usage and don't have any problems (actual 
image is 12.2(31)SB3x)

From what I recall there isn't a 12.3 image for the NPE-G2. 12.4T is out 
there with the new style of feature set, but we haven't used it in service.

Mark. 

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Re: [c-nsp] L3 switch with MPLS support

2007-05-10 Thread Arūnas Maisiejus

Hi,

Look at Cisco Catalyst 3750 Metro Series Switches ME-C3750-24TE-M

Arunas

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Primoz Jeroncic
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:36 AM
 To: Cisco Mailing list
 Subject: [c-nsp] L3 switch with MPLS support
 
 
 Hi everyone
 
 I'm sorry since this post is not Cisco related, but I hope someone
 might still have some usefull suggestions.
 
 I'm trying to find l3 switch capable of MPLS. Unfortunately
 for some of our PE locations switches like cat6500 or c3750 metro
 our way way too much. So I'm trying to find something in range of
 Cisco 3560 but of course with MPLS support. Does anyone have
 any suggestions for any other then Cisco product, which would fit
 into such range?
 
 Thanks in advance for all your suggestions, and sorry again 
 for non-Cisco
 related question.
 
 Have fun,
 Primoz Jeroncic
 Support - IP Connectivity  Routing
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Re: [c-nsp] L3 switch with MPLS support

2007-05-10 Thread Marko Milivojevic
 PS: c6500 is out of question for two reason... one it's too expensive
 and even if not (refurbished), it's too big sometimes. In small pops
 where we have let's say 10 clients, c6500 is really overkill.

There is a smaller ME6500 version that would fit your needs size-wise.
It's probably too expensive still.

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[c-nsp] Cat 6500 SUP720 environment problems..

2007-05-10 Thread John R
  Hello all

We have some questions in relation to our environment, we basically have a
pair of 6509 chassis with sup720-3b`s connecting to lots ( over 300 ) cisco
3020 blade switches, with each 3020 attached to both 6509`s, there are no
DFC`s on the linecards.

The 6500`s have 8 x Gig-E connections as a portchannel between them

The environment runs unicast and multicast but there is no really high
traffic levels, we have some questions relating to below, any comments would
be most welcome.


6500 --- 8 gig-e portchannel --- 6500
\  /
 \/
  \  300+ 3020 blades  /



Cat6509`s are running both running 12.2.18SXF5 -
ipservicesk9-mz.122-18.SXF5.bin

CAT6KSUP720-3B#sh cat
  chassis MAC addresses: 1024 addresses from 0018.7433.3400 to
0018.7433.37ff
  traffic meter =   1%   Last cleared at 13:22:27 GMT Thu Nov 9 2006
   peak =  96%reached at 01:12:36 BST Thu May 10 2007
  switching-clock: clock switchover and system reset is allowed

Q - Is this peak only for the shared bus ?

##

CAT6KSUP720-3B#sh pla ha cap for
L2 Forwarding Resources
   MAC Table usage:   Module  Collisions  Total   Used
%Used
  50  65536   2905
 4%

 VPN CAM usage:   Total   Used
%Used
512  0
 0%
L3 Forwarding Resources
 FIB TCAM usage: TotalUsed
%Used
  72 bits (IPv4, MPLS, EoM) 1966084232
 2%
 144 bits (IP mcast, IPv6)   327681483
 5%

 detail:  ProtocolUsed
%Used
  IPv44232
 2%
  MPLS   0
 0%
  EoM0
 0%

  IPv6   2
 1%
  IPv4 mcast  1481
 5%
  IPv6 mcast 0
 0%

Adjacency usage: TotalUsed
%Used
   10485764194
 1%

 Forwarding engine load:
 Module   pps   peak-pps
peak-time
 5 6163919068315  15:29:21 GMT Mon Dec 18
2006

Q - Is the peak-pps the largest peak seen by the PFC
Q - If it is, is this not well short of the 30mpps that the box should be
able to support

##

CAT6KSUP720-3B#sh ibc brief
Interface information:
Interface IBC0/0(idb 0x51E4F010)
Hardware is Mistral IBC (revision 5)
5 minute rx rate 134000 bits/sec, 60 packets/sec
5 minute tx rate 76000 bits/sec, 48 packets/sec
801981457 packets input, 158150852481 bytes
571784929 broadcasts received
615169009 packets output, 150564832578 bytes
65392127 broadcasts sent
1 Inband input packet drops
0 Bridge Packet loopback drops
50002482 Packets CEF Switched, 118971932 Packets Fast Switched
0 Packets SLB Switched, 0 Packets CWAN Switched
IBC resets   = 1; last at 14:25:38.107 gmt Sat Oct 28 2006
MISTRAL ERROR COUNTERS
System address timeouts  = 0 BUS errors = 0
IBC Address timeouts = 0 (addr 0x0)
Page CRC errors  = 0 IBL CRC errors = 0
ECC Correctable errors   = 0
Packets with padding removed (0/0/0)   = 0
Packets expanded (0/0)   = 0
Packets attempted tail end expansion  1 page and were dropped = 0
IP packets dropped with frag offset of 1 = 0
1696 packets (aggregate) dropped on throttled interfaces
Hazard Illegal packet length = 0 Illegal Offset   = 0
Hazard Packet underflow  = 0 Packet Overflow  = 0
IBL fill hang count  = 0 Unencapsed packets   = 0
LBIC RXQ Drop pkt count = 0LBIC drop pkt count  = 0
LBIC Drop pkt stick = 0

The CEF counter is not clocking in this instance, whereas the fast switch
counter is, our understanding is that the IBC is the bus between the SP and
RP?

Q - Why do we see so many fast switches packets
Q - Should the CEF counter not increment



##

CAT6KSUP720-3B#sh ip mroute count ters
IP Multicast Statistics
730 routes using 681034 bytes of memory
21 groups, 33.76 average sources per group

Q - The above is the avergae mcast count for the box, this to us doesn't
seem high ?
Q - With lots of multicast boundary commands 

Re: [c-nsp] SNMP quering of queue-stats etc. / CBWFQ / cbqos from C7200

2007-05-10 Thread Ed Ravin
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:04:42PM +0200, Dennis Breithaupt wrote:
 
  Hello people,  
  It seems, that I've either misunderstood the concepts of getting
 qos-stats out of a c7200 :) or that there're some other problems with
 that. Anyway, I kindly request any hints, that may help here :)  

   http://www.acktomic.com/cricket/cricket.htm

Download genRtrConfig or one of its friends and run it against your
router.  Be sure to use the --vendor-int or whatever option it is that
digs out all the Cisco-specific stats like the queue-stats.  Even if
you're not using Cricket, the Cricket configuration that this script
generates will show you how to get the queue-stats, filtered packets,
and other fun stuff.

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Re: [c-nsp] BGP and HSRP

2007-05-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday 09 May 2007, myNET NOC - Bernd Ueberbacher wrote:
 Hi everyone!

 I'm reading this list for a couple of months now and tonight I got my
 first question :-)
[snip details]

It is a really good list, isn't it?  I certainly have found it to be.  In any 
case, maybe this will help you think it through:

Ok, you have two upstreams, and three routers.  Let's call the first 
upstream's router 'U1', the second upstream's router 'U2', and the internal 
third router 'I3'.

Now, U1 will need to BGP peer with its upstream router.  U2 will need to BGP 
peer with its upstream router.  U1 and U2 need an iBGP neighbor relationship 
between them. (meaning you need an AS number; you can probably get your 
upstreams to filter a private ASN for you if you don't have your own ASN).

I3 would ideally run an interior gateway routing protocol to get to U1 and U2 
(and the rest of your network) rather than HSRP, which is designed to provide 
failover for workstations that only have a default route (well, any device 
with only a default route).

BGP itself will provide all the automatic failover from your upstream routers 
back to U1 and U2; you neither need nor really want HSRP on the upstream side 
of things.  And given that the upstreams are not on the same subnet, HSRP 
won't even work (HSRP won't work on a /30 anyway, as there aren't enough IP 
addresses: you need an absolute minimum of 3 usable addresses for the gateway 
side of HSRP, not counting the stations/routers with their default gateway 
pointing to the HSRP virtual IP, and your /30's have only two usable 
addresses; a /29 is the smallest subnet on which HSRP will work).

Now, if you REALLY want HSRP on the LAN side, it will work, but you then don't 
run iBGP on that side; I3 would have a simple default route to the HSRP 
virtual address, and U1 and U2 would have LAN interfaces on the same subnet 
as I3's interface.

I'm doing something similar to this here with a pair of 7401's at the provider 
end of an OC3, using a Catalyst 5505 as a 'port expander' for the 7401's, and 
talking through what I'm doing might help you see how to use HSRP and BGP 
appropriately in your instance.  The 7401's and the 5505 are at the 
co-location and upstream PoP facility; the OC3 is a non-Internet WAN link 
from the co-lo/PoP to my site, and the Internet connection is over Fast 
Ethernet.

The OC3 is configured with APS redundancy; each 7401 has a PA-POS-OC3-SMI in 
it, but only one is active at any given time, with the other as a hot standby 
(the APS terminology is 'working' and 'protect' with only one of them 
being 'active' at a time).  

Each 7401 has two GigE interfaces, one of which is set up as an 802.1Q trunk 
to the 5505 (the second port on each 7401 is being connected to another 
Catalyst for layer 2 redundancy, but that's not finished yet).  On the GigE 
trunk, I have a VLAN for the internet connections going to a port on the 5505 
that connect to my upstream's 7609 (yes, I'm upstreaming with a /29 and two 
BGP sessions over it; a second /29 is going to be implemented for a second 
upstream a little later); I also have a VLAN for the co-lo servers connected 
to the 5505. There are other VLAN's configured, but they aren't important for 
this discussion.

The Internet VLAN subinterfaces on the 7401's run BGP to my upstream (in this 
case, redundancy to the single upstream due to SONET APS).  The two 7401's 
have an iBGP connection between them, and I'm not redistributing the BGP 
routing into the OSPF.  The VLAN for the co-lo servers runs HSRP tied to the 
OC3 interface status, so that an APS 'working-protect' transition event also 
switches the HSRP active.  I'm running OSPF between the two 7401's and the 
routers on the local side of the APS protected OC3, and failover is pretty 
quick.  (Oh, and NAT is in play here, too, with Stateful NAT failover and 
HSRP NAT groups, but that muddies the waters).  Oh, and in case anyone is 
curious, the two POS interfaces are configured with the same IP address for 
least confusion in the routing.

But the HSRP on the co-lo side from the servers works well, and the BGP 
routing out works well too, but they solve different problems.  Dual BGP 
sessions to upstreams don't need HSRP, and it would be more trouble than it's 
really worth to try to get working.

I hope this helps you think through the problem you're really trying to solve 
here, which, unless I misunderstand, is getting failover between your two 
upstreams.  There are several Ciscopress as well as other publisher's books 
that address this topic; also, you might want to read the Cisco whitepaper 
that talks about enterprise multihoming with NAT, as it gives a good diagram 
of part of what I've implemented here (although I'm not doing the type of NAT 
they describe).

If you'd like pointers to some good books, let me know and I'll reply offlist.
-- 
Lamar Owen
Chief Information Officer
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC  28772

[c-nsp] netflow monitoring

2007-05-10 Thread Justin M. Streiner
Just out of curiosity, what sorts of freeware/open source tools are people 
using to provide some level of alerting based on netflow data?  Most of 
the open source tools I've seen do visualization and/or data collection, 
but the alert capabilities were lacking, at least the last time I looked.
I also realize that the alerting capabilities are a bit of a moving 
target.  Rule-based alert systems, i.e. if incoming tcp/445 traffic to 
network X reaches Y pps, do action Z, or more automated baseline/delta 
systems are both options.

As much as I'd like to go with a known-solid commercial solution like 
Arbor Networks, the $$ isn't in the budget for that right now.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

jms
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Re: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem

2007-05-10 Thread Dan Armstrong
These were just 2 ports on the same blade of a WS-X6724 blade at both 
sides... nothing at all strange.

I never thought of not using PAgP or LACP - perhaps I should try it.

I am too nervous to bring the GEC back up - both links out of the 
Etherchannel have been testing fine for days... maybe I should just suck 
it up and try it to see if it fails again.



Mike Lydick wrote:

 I had a similar issue when trying to turn up port channels that span 
 across stack 3750. TAC recommends not using PAGP or LACP. Have not 
 gotten it work since. Is this similar to your scenerio? Any resolution?

 - Original Message 
 From: Dan Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Collins, Richard (SNL US) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 7:31:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem

 I did exactly that, and managed to get it to go into LACP mode.

 The Etherchannel ran for about 3 hours without a problem, then all of a
 sudden started losing pings all over the place.  I took one channel out
 of service, and it was fine.

 I tested both physical links separately, and they're both perfect.  I'm
 scared to put them back into the Etherchannel now for fear that they'll
 fail again.

 I am using the single fibre SFPs (the GLC-BX-Us and GLC-BX-Ds) for both
 of these links.

 Anybody seen an Etherchannel lose it when the two underlying physical
 links are seemingly perfect on their own?




 Collins, Richard (SNL US) wrote:
  So I suppose the opposite side was set at the same time to either
  channel-group 10 mode [active or passive] for LACP?
 
  What about additionally setting..
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-protocol lacp
  I can't test this myself but saw the configuration option.
 
  -Rich
 
 
   
  Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 02:39:04 -0400
  From: Dan Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [c-nsp] Port-Channel Problem
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Riddle me this.
 
  I have 1 physical link, and a port-channel interface operating in PAgP
 
  mode.
   
  interface GigabitEthernet1/21
  no ip address
  switchport
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk allowed vlan
 
  50,80,119,300-304,349,412,420,440,444,446,447
   
  switchport trunk allowed vlan add 449,500,503,616,620,900
  switchport mode trunk
  channel-group 10 mode desirable
  end
 
  interface Port-channel10
  no ip address
  switchport
  switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
  switchport trunk allowed vlan
 
  50,80,119,300-304,349,412,420,440,444,446,447
   
  switchport trunk allowed vlan add 449,500,503,616,620,900
  switchport mode trunk
 
 
  metro2.tor-Front[7609]#sh int po10
  Port-channel10 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
   Hardware is EtherChannel, address is 0015.f91d.5c8e (bia
 
  0015.f91d.5c8e)
   
   Description: GEC to metro1.tor-Mowat [Port-channel10]
   MTU 9216 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
  reliability 255/255, txload 104/255, rxload 202/255
 
 
  Life was good, then:
 
 
  2 problems.  I first tried to change to LACP:
 
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-group 10 mode ?
   active Enable LACP unconditionally
   auto   Enable PAgP only if a PAgP device is detected
   desirable  Enable PAgP unconditionally
   on Enable Etherchannel only
   passiveEnable LACP only if a LACP device is detected
 
  metro2.tor-Front[760(config-if)#channel-group 10 mode active
 
 
  The interface bounced, and went straight back into PAgP mode.
 
  I tried it several times.  [EMAIL PROTECTED], always back to PAgP.
  channel-group 10 mode desirable
 
 
  Second problem:
 
  I tried a second link anyway, and when I added a second link into the
  PAgP group, the rely on the port-channel interface started dropping
 
  like
   
  a stone,  packets were dropping all over the place and even though
  everything seemed to be up, speed, duplex, vlans, configuration
  perfectly matched between the underlying physical interfaces  the
  port-channel interface the po interface was a mess.  The new
  physical link on it's own is clean as a whistle when I setup a test
  vlan, or set both sides up as routed interfaces
 
  Anybody have any light to shed?
 
 
 
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[c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Kumar Dasari
Hi all:

I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage reports 
from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds etc) when 
monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For example there is 
discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 min bps output rate is, 
and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router itself. Software is lower 
always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

Thanks.
Kumar
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Re: [c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Kumar Dasari wrote:

 I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage 
 reports from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds 
 etc) when monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For 
 example there is discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 
 min bps output rate is, and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router 
 itself. Software is lower always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

On average, how far off are the SNMP counters from the output of a 'show 
interface TenGigXXX'?

A few thoughts off the bat...
1. Are you running a version of software on these routers that has an SNMP 
bug?
2. Are you polling the 64-bit counters for your 10 gig interfaces?
3. What is the load-interval set to on the interfaces?  If you don't see a 
load-interval XX under specific interface configs, then it's set to the 
default value, which I believe is 5 minutes.
4. Are the graphs always lower, even in the 5-minute/daily traffic views?
MRTG will wash some of the traffic peaks out of the graphs over time, 
unless you specifically tell it to preserve them, but you wouldn't see 
this until you get into the longer-term views.

jms
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Re: [c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Rhett Bassett
Kumar Dasari wrote:
 I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage 
 reports from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds etc) 
 when monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For example there is 
 discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 min bps output rate is, 
 and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router itself. Software is lower 
 always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

Increase your sample rate - you're probably hitting the SNMP counter
rollover.

Quoth the Cricket manual
(http://cricket.sourceforge.net/support/doc/reference.html): an SNMP
Counter32 can wrap in under 5 minutes at bandwidths above 100 Mbits,
it's critical to fetch the data more often, or else RRD will not be able
to correctly detect and process the counter wrap.

-- 
Rhett Bassett
Research and Development Lead
Hunter Communications
541.734.2800 x2117
http://www.coreds.net
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Re: [c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Bill Nash

Alternatively, make sure you're using the 64 bit counters (ifHCInOctets 
ifHCOutOctets).

See the ifXtable in ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/IF-MIB.my

- billn

On Thu, 10 May 2007, Rhett Bassett wrote:

 Kumar Dasari wrote:
  I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage 
  reports from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds etc) 
  when monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For example there 
  is discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 min bps output 
  rate is, and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router itself. Software 
  is lower always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?
 
 Increase your sample rate - you're probably hitting the SNMP counter
 rollover.
 
 Quoth the Cricket manual
 (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/support/doc/reference.html): an SNMP
 Counter32 can wrap in under 5 minutes at bandwidths above 100 Mbits,
 it's critical to fetch the data more often, or else RRD will not be able
 to correctly detect and process the counter wrap.
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Joe Loiacono
Looks like a 64-bit vs 32-bit counter problem. You have to configure the 
software to seek the 64-bit OID.





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Hi all:

I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage 
reports from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds 
etc) when monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For example 
there is discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 min bps 
output rate is, and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router itself. 
Software is lower always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?

Thanks.
Kumar
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Re: [c-nsp] Snmp monitoring of 10GigE Interfaces

2007-05-10 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
According to Cisco:

If the bandwidth of the interface is greater than the maximum value
reportable by this object then this object should report its
maximum value (4,294,967,295) and ifHighSpeed must be used
to report the interace's speed.

--
Tassos

Bill Nash wrote on 10/5/2007 8:05 μμ:
 Alternatively, make sure you're using the 64 bit counters (ifHCInOctets 
 ifHCOutOctets).
 
 See the ifXtable in ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v2/IF-MIB.my
 
 - billn
 
 On Thu, 10 May 2007, Rhett Bassett wrote:
 
 Kumar Dasari wrote:
 I am having rather erratic and inconsistent results for bandwidth usage 
 reports from different SNMP software packages (MRTG, Cacti, Solarwinds etc) 
 when monitoring 10GigE interfaces on Cisco 7609 Routers. For example there 
 is discripency in what the snmp software says what the 5 min bps output 
 rate is, and what the show int te1/1 shows on the router itself. Software 
 is lower always. Any suggestions on how I can fix this?
 Increase your sample rate - you're probably hitting the SNMP counter
 rollover.

 Quoth the Cricket manual
 (http://cricket.sourceforge.net/support/doc/reference.html): an SNMP
 Counter32 can wrap in under 5 minutes at bandwidths above 100 Mbits,
 it's critical to fetch the data more often, or else RRD will not be able
 to correctly detect and process the counter wrap.


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Re: [c-nsp] SNMP quering of queue-stats etc. / CBWFQ / cbqos from C7200 [solved]

2007-05-10 Thread Dennis Breithaupt
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Dennis Breithaupt schrieb:
  Hello people,  
  It seems, that I've either misunderstood the concepts of getting
 qos-stats out of a c7200 :) or that there're some other problems with
 that. Anyway, I kindly request any hints, that may help here :)  

Re all,

thank you all for your hints. As it turned out, we did everything
correct. After looking through all the documents we got even more
confident, that everything was configured the way it should. :)

After a reboot(!) of the router, all snmp-counters were available as
expected. The reboot was not possible over the day, though, and earlier
we had not seen a reason for rebooting... - Maybe it would have been
enough to stop/start the snmp-server... I'll try that on another system
later.

Regards

- -Dennis
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP and HSRP

2007-05-10 Thread Vassili Tchersky
2007/5/10, Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 If you'd like pointers to some good books, let me know and I'll reply offlist.

You seem to understand well the networking principles, so I'm also
interested in the reference of the books that taught you so well :)

Thanks,

-- 
Vassili Tchersky
Réseau Koumbit Network
VTC1-ARIN

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