Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
 We distribute the larger aggregation nodes to various sites and then
generally have access rings with access nodes hung off of those.  
Are the access rings in a separate area/level or running a separate igp, or
how do you scale your backbone IGP please?

adam
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From: Phil Bedard [mailto:phil...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:23 PM
To: mark.ti...@seacom.mu
Cc: Adam Vitkovsky; Andrew Miehs; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE



On 7/8/13 11:14 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

On Monday, July 08, 2013 12:33:36 PM Phil Bedard wrote:

 XR supports it in the latest revision, didn't know about the 3600 
 support. I guess this is the C-NSP list. We have thousands of 
 non-Cisco nodes deployed using RSVP-TE in the access layer but it 
 requires stitching at the service layer to scale. It has shown to be 
 scalable at least for us.

You're brave.

We, at the time, opted to wait for IP LFA since RSVP-TE in the Access 
(even just to the adjacent PE routers) just didn't look 
administratively feasible, let alone scale :-).

I'd be glad to hear more about your experiences.

It really depends on how things are deployed and how distributed they are.
 We distribute the larger aggregation nodes to various sites and then
generally have access rings with access nodes hung off of those.  We
typically do not have too many nodes on a single 1GE ring, they are balanced
using passive CWDM/DWDM.  Each access node has a single TE LSP to
each aggregation node over which all services ride.   With access rings
with less than 10 nodes you have a low number of actual LSPs.  The agg nodes
might terminate 20-30 access rings resulting in most cases well under a
thousand LSPs, which isn't really a big deal for modern equipment.
 The services are generally either terminated or stitched at the agg node,
so it does result in quite a few unique LDP sessions, but the scale of those
are in the thousands today.  It's also not terribly difficult to add
more agg nodes but to date we haven't had to do that.   I can think of
high density situations where this model probably wouldn't work out due to
control plane scale issues.



 Unified/Seamless MPLS has been around for years and would be ideal 
 but the end nodes have traditionally had poor BGP support. The agg 
 nodes will do BGP-LU to LDP translation but the LFIB capacity is 
 fairly small.
 Requires using something like LDP DOD to really work.
 The nodes support using an aggregate or default prefix for the LDP 
 IGP route.

MPLS-in-the-Access has been around for a long time, but only if you 
were prepared to spend a lot on big boxes in order to have good 
support.

Some folk decided to put in the 7604's or MX240's, but those were all 
simply still too big.

Luckily, we waited long enough until the Brocade CER/CES, the Cisco 
ME3600X/3800X and the Juniper MX80 started to materialize.

Each of these has great all-round support (including QoS in the 
ME3600X/3800X, which has always been a turn-off in Cisco switches), and 
we went for the ME3600X.

So, now at least, operators have a real shot at extending MPLS into the 
access for the price, without compromising features.

Mark.

We have been using ALU gear in that capacity for going on 4 years now, but
they have only had nodes capapable of doing a 10G ring and drop for about a
year now, but that was a very small part of our overall business.
Cisco and Juniper didn't even make it past the early RFP stages because at
the time they had no comparable equipment.  I'm not going to say the gear is
perfect, and has been lacking things like H-QoS until very recently, but all
of their boxes have had feature sets for years that Cisco/Juniper are only
now getting to.  Now their boxes support things like RFC3107/LDPoRSVP/PBB
even on the access nodes.

Phil






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Re: [c-nsp] ASA 5585-X SSP-10 multi-context failover not stateful with IPv4

2013-07-09 Thread Antonio Soares
Do you have logs associated with the problem ? Did you see something like
no valid adjacency ?



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


-Original Message-
From: vinny_abe...@dell.com [mailto:vinny_abe...@dell.com] 
Sent: segunda-feira, 8 de Julho de 2013 20:11
To: amsoa...@netcabo.pt; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] ASA 5585-X SSP-10 multi-context failover not stateful
with IPv4

No, just static routes in this environment. And I'm running a version that
is already supposedly fixed, 9.1(2) as this was fixed in 9.1(1.1), But
thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoa...@netcabo.pt]
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:46 AM
To: Abello, Vinny; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] ASA 5585-X SSP-10 multi-context failover not stateful
with IPv4

Are you running OSPF ? If yes, check this bug:

http://tools.cisco.com/Support/BugToolKit/search/getBugDetails.do?method=fet
chBugDetailsbugId=CSCuc12967



Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (RS/SP)
amsoa...@netcabo.pt
http://www.ccie18473.net


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Subject: [c-nsp] ASA 5585-X SSP-10 multi-context failover not stateful with
IPv4

Hi all,

I have a bizarre situation that isn't making sense to me.

I have two ASA 5585-X firewalls with SSP-10. They are in an Active/Standby
configuration and running in multi-context mode. I have replication of state
information between them working just fine. We're running both IPv4 and IPv6
and have the latest 9.1(2) code loaded.

The problem is if I force a failover from the system context, any open
connections over IPv4 coming in the outside interface of a context via a NAT
translation seems to get lost during the failover. I'm not positive if it's
the state table or the NAT table that is having an issue or if they are one
in the same on the ASA. The interesting part is my IPv6 connectivity
persists without any problems during the failover. I can be transferring a
file via FTP or stay connected via RDP to the machines behind the firewall
(Windows servers) over IPv6 and everything is seamless as it should be. If I
am connected via RDP over IPv4, the connection hangs, eventually resets and
reconnects.

Nothing looks out of the ordinary as far as I can tell. This is the first
environment I've worked on with the ASA's in multi-context mode.

From the system context, this is the failover configuration:

failover
failover lan unit primary
failover lan interface failover GigabitEthernet0/7 failover replication http
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/0 acf2.c5f2.d301 acf2.c5f2.d302
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/1 acf2.c5f2.d311 acf2.c5f2.d312
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/2 acf2.c5f2.d321 acf2.c5f2.d322
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/3 acf2.c5f2.d331 acf2.c5f2.d332
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/4 acf2.c5f2.d341 acf2.c5f2.d342
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/5 acf2.c5f2.d351 acf2.c5f2.d352
failover mac address GigabitEthernet0/6 acf2.c5f2.d361 acf2.c5f2.d362
failover mac address TenGigabitEthernet0/8 acf2.c5f2.d393 acf2.c5f2.d394
failover link failover GigabitEthernet0/7 failover interface ip failover
172.16.255.1 255.255.255.0 standby
172.16.255.2

At first I thought it was some type of ARP issue which is why I have
configured the mac addresses for primary and secondary units. I read the
following in the Active/Standby guide:

If you do not configure virtual MAC addresses, you might need to clear the
ARP tables on connected routers to restore traffic flow. The ASA does not
send gratuitous ARPs for static NAT addresses when the MAC address changes,
so connected routers do not learn of the MAC address change for these
addresses.

That is the reason for the MAC address configuration above but it didn't
seem to help.

All interfaces show Normal (Monitored) both in the system context and in the
context in question. Stateful update statistics show the following in the
system context:

Stateful Failover Logical Update Statistics
Link : failover GigabitEthernet0/7 (up)
Stateful Objxmit   xerr   rcvrerr
General 45334  0  141772620242
sys cmd 31679  0  31678  0
up time 0  0  0  0
RPC services0  0  0  0
TCP conn9634   0  1012694327
UDP conn2055   0  196454 0
ARP tbl 8330  87033  0
Xlate_Timeout   0  0  0  0
IPv6 ND tbl 9160  89861  280
VPN IKEv1 SA0  0  0  0
VPN IKEv1 P20  0  0  0
   VPN IKEv2 SA0   

[c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread Ahmed Hilmy
Hello Friends,
We are going to establish a new 10GE circuit as a UP Link.
So what you suggest a best Tier 1 ISP that provide high level of support ?
Right now we have TATA,Cogent,Interout, Turktelecom and Level3.

Thanks,
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
It very much appears they used IGP to propagate labels, they are just called
segments. 
Looks like it's using the same computations as rLFA in order to build the
tunnel towards the protection node. 
Now with this and routing-header in IPv6 do we really need LDP for IPv6
(other than the targeted LDP sessions)? 
I'd like to play with this

adam
-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Saku
Ytti
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:32 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

On (2013-07-08 17:14 +0200), Mark Tinka wrote:

 We, at the time, opted to wait for IP LFA since RSVP-TE in the Access 
 (even just to the adjacent PE routers) just didn't look 
 administratively feasible, let alone scale :-).

Even tLDP needed for rLFA is less than desirable, additional states
seemingly arbitrarily signalled up and down.  Segment routing[0] provides
100% coverage for LFA like functionality without any additional signalling
between the devices.

[0]
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-filsfils-rtgwg-segment-routing-use-cases-00
#section-3

EFT program exists for IOS-XR/ASR9k at least.
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Re: [c-nsp] Drop rule at the end of CoPP conflicts with MAC learning

2013-07-09 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hello,

exactly that was the plan.
We keep CoPP a bit open until the next bigger maintenance work and then
will try another IOS.

regards
Rolf

 I would try switching code versions.
 It sounds like you are hitting a bug.
 Given the fact that other boxes running different code are behaving
 normally,
 The only conclusion is that it is a software issue.
 Keep in mind that TAC may not have it listed as a known bug even though it
 was fixed.

 LR Mack McBride
 Network Architect

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
 Rolf Hanßen
 Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 6:44 AM
 To: Nick Hilliard
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Drop rule at the end of CoPP conflicts with MAC
 learning

 Hi,

 If I had a support contract for that box I would open a tac case now. ;)

 kind regards
 Rolf

 On 28/06/2013 17:55, Rolf Hanßen wrote:
 does not look like this is a general hardware version issue.

 mmm, ok.  I would:

 - run a context diff on the configuration on each of these machines to
 ensure that there are no syntactic differences

 - disable and then re-enable copp on the affected box to ensure that
 it's reprogrammed correctly into the hardware (sometimes things get
 messed up on the way down to the line cards)

 - compare the output of show mls rate-limit on all machines

 - check your platform acl tcam capacity using show platform hardware
 capacity acl, to ensure that you still have some acl tcam space
 available for your copp config.

 If this doesn't point towards a resolution, I'd open up a tac case.

 Nick


 But I found a box with the same hardware versions:

 Mod  Port Model  Serial #Versions
   -- ---
 -
   52  WS-SUP720-3B   ### Hw : 5.3
  Fw : 8.4(2)
  Sw : 12.2(33)SXJ
  Sw1: 20.1(1)SXJ
   WS-SUP720  ### Hw : 2.6
  Fw : 12.2(17r)SX7
  Sw : 12.2(33)SXJ
   WS-F6K-PFC3B   ### Hw : 2.3

 This box also works as soon as I enter mls rate-limit unicast cef
 glean 500.

 kind regards
 Rolf

 Any further ideas except hardware failure, buggy software or try
 rebooting it ?

 Could be a hardware issue.  As someone else mentioned (Phil?), this
 particular feature is hardware revision dependent.

 What hardware versions are each of your SUP720s (show module)?

 Nick









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[c-nsp] Cisco IOS XE

2013-07-09 Thread M K
Hi/I am trying to upload the Cisco CSR 1000 ova image , have anyone found a 
solution for the below message?
%IOSXEBOOT-4-BOOT_HALT: (rp/0): Halted boot due to missing CPU feature 
requirement(s)
Thanks
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Re: [c-nsp] Static Route

2013-07-09 Thread M K
I know why we use dynamic routing protocols for but it's case we faced when 
practicing some HSRP configuration and related that to IP SLA so I asked about 
it 

 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 20:05:32 +0100
 From: n...@foobar.org
 To: gunner_...@live.com
 CC: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Static Route
 
 On 04/07/2013 13:03, M K wrote:
  I have two routers connected to each other , I have configured a
  loopback interface on The second router and configured a static route to
  reach it , now when i shutdown the loopback interface the static route
  is still in the routing table , how can i remove that route
  automatically when i lose reachability to the loopback interface ?
  should i use IP sla ?
 
 this is what we use dynamic routing protocols for.
 
 Nick
 
  
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2013-07-09 13:30 +0200), Adam Vitkovsky wrote:

 Now with this and routing-header in IPv6 do we really need LDP for IPv6
 (other than the targeted LDP sessions)? 

If you do kompella eompls and you don't do mLDP, you can throw LDP out the
window, labeled IPv6 will work with or without 6PE.

 I'd like to play with this

Ping your account team.

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Re: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:09:45PM +0300, Ahmed Hilmy wrote:
 We are going to establish a new 10GE circuit as a UP Link.
 So what you suggest a best Tier 1 ISP that provide high level of support ?
 Right now we have TATA,Cogent,Interout, Turktelecom and Level3.

We have been most happy with NTT so far.  As in everything was way better
than our experience with other uplinks has led us to expect.  

Like, no mandatory conference calls to get a circuit activated (as Global 
Crossing used to do), but a mail with here's your IPv4 and IPv6 address 
for the link, please configure at your convenience and tell us when we 
should turn on BGP.

Or, after an external DoS hit their Frankfurt node which we're connected
to, we received an unsolicited e-mail we had a DoS here, leading to some
packet loss.  Problem has been fixed, our apologies.  We didn't even 
notice up to that point...  experience with other carriers is more along
the lines of we call them, tell them there's packet loss, and they won't
find anything and close the ticket.

So, yes.  Happy customer.

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread Reuben Farrelly

On 9/07/2013 10:32 PM, Gert Doering wrote:

Or, after an external DoS hit their Frankfurt node which we're connected
to, we received an unsolicited e-mail we had a DoS here, leading to some
packet loss.  Problem has been fixed, our apologies.  We didn't even
notice up to that point...  experience with other carriers is more along
the lines of we call them, tell them there's packet loss, and they won't
find anything and close the ticket.

So, yes.  Happy customer.


+1 here.  Happy ex-customer (only because I changed job) after a similar 
couple of DDOS incidents.  We also had both an international MPLS 
circuit as well as Internet transit based out of Sydney, Australia.


NTT have a pretty decent IPv6 backbone too, FWIW.

Reuben





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Re: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:42:56PM +1000, Reuben Farrelly wrote:
 NTT have a pretty decent IPv6 backbone too, FWIW.

Yeah, didn't mention that, but indeed - IPv6 is not something considered
experimental, no support, or whatnot, but a commercial product fully
supported and on par with IPv4.  As it needs to be.

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[c-nsp] privilege exec ... unexpected behaviour

2013-07-09 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hello,

Following Setup:
I created a User with no privileges and want to allow some commands. I
configured:
privilege exec level 0 show bgp ipv6 unicast
privilege exec level 0 show bgp ipv4 unicast
privilege exec level 0 show ip bgp
privilege exec level 0 show ip route
All commands were accepted by the cli.

I then access the device with the limited user.
Those commands work fine:
show ip route 1.2.3.4
show ip bgp 1.2.3.4

But the sh bgp ... commands fail:
Routershow bgp ?
  all   All address families
  ipv4  Address family
  ipv6  Address family
  l2vpn Address family
  nsap  Address family
  rtfilter  Address family
  vpnv4 Address family
  vpnv6 Address family

Routershow bgp ipv4 ?
% Unrecognized command
Routershow bgp ipv4

The Config file also does not list the commands.
Router#sh running-config | inc privilege exec
privilege exec level 0 show bgp
privilege exec level 0 show ipv6 route
privilege exec level 0 show ipv6
privilege exec level 0 show ip bgp
privilege exec level 0 show ip route
privilege exec level 0 show ip
privilege exec level 0 show


Is there some additional config needed or is it some kind of
restriction/limitation ?

Hardware is Sup2T
Software is 15.0(1)SY2

kind regards
Rolf

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Re: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread David Hubbard
We've been extremely happy with Internap's support.  It is not
uncommon to call them and have the person who answers the phone
be able to give you fairly complex answers to routing and bgp
questions.  Every other provider we've used, and currently use,
the most you get out of the initial phone call is here's your
ticket number and someone will call you back soon if you're lucky.

David 

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Ahmed Hilmy
 Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:10 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP
 
 Hello Friends,
 We are going to establish a new 10GE circuit as a UP Link.
 So what you suggest a best Tier 1 ISP that provide high level 
 of support ?
 Right now we have TATA,Cogent,Interout, Turktelecom and Level3.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 6500 mounting with cables

2013-07-09 Thread Chris Marget
 Let me know where you find those Cat6 rated Amphenol cables at. That's the 
 reason I've heard behind the demise of RJ21 connectors.

No need for Cat6. 1000BASE-T only calls for Cat5, same as 100BASE-TX.
Heck, it's right in the title of 802.3ab.

I'm curious whether folks here have found any benefit in using Cat5e
or Cat6 over Cat5 for Ethernet. Is there any?

It's almost hard to find Cat5 these days - what's driving the demand?
Surely people aren't buying Cat6 with TIA TSB-155 in mind, so why is
the market flooded with better-but-not-meaningfully-so cable?

Maybe there's a significant non-Ethernet use, like analog video transmission?
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS XE

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Hyde
The CPU on the system you are trying to run this on is not new enough.


On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:53 AM, M K gunner_...@live.com wrote:

 Hi/I am trying to upload the Cisco CSR 1000 ova image , have anyone found a 
 solution for the below message?
 %IOSXEBOOT-4-BOOT_HALT: (rp/0): Halted boot due to missing CPU feature 
 requirement(s)
 Thanks  
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:43:20 AM Adam Vitkovsky wrote:

 Are the access rings in a separate area/level or
 running a separate igp, or how do you scale your
 backbone IGP please?

We kept them in the IS-IS level (i.e., L2-only), as Inter-
Area MPLS-TE is not supported without resorting to deploying 
expanded loose hops for RSVP-TE sessions (p2p and p2mp).

The upside, simplicity and not running around 
troubleshooting potential adjacency problems caused having 
some routers being in the area a la L1 IS-IS.

The downside, NLRI changes in the IGP happening in one end 
of the network would be heard by a router in another part 
of the network that is not generally interested in them.

The weakest link was the smaller CPU's on the ME3600X, but 
those are not that bad to be honest. 

We opted to do that until the industry catches up with 
scaling methods that aren't as complex as BGP Label Unicast.

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 01:30:02 PM Adam Vitkovsky wrote:

 It very much appears they used IGP to propagate labels,
 they are just called segments.
 Looks like it's using the same computations as rLFA in
 order to build the tunnel towards the protection node.
 Now with this and routing-header in IPv6 do we really
 need LDP for IPv6 (other than the targeted LDP
 sessions)?
 I'd like to play with this

Yeah, me too :-).

Mark.


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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS XE

2013-07-09 Thread Dikkema, Michael (Business Technology)
Or the CPU is new enough, but Virtualcenter has EVC (Enhanced vMotion 
Compatibility) set to something earlier than Nehalem.

From: cisco-nsp [cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike Hyde 
[mike.hy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:22 AM
To: M K
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS XE

The CPU on the system you are trying to run this on is not new enough.


On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:53 AM, M K gunner_...@live.com wrote:

 Hi/I am trying to upload the Cisco CSR 1000 ova image , have anyone found a 
 solution for the below message?
 %IOSXEBOOT-4-BOOT_HALT: (rp/0): Halted boot due to missing CPU feature 
 requirement(s)
 Thanks
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
Just pinged my SE asking why on earth am I not in the EFT team already :)

adam
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 01:30:02 PM Adam Vitkovsky wrote:

 It very much appears they used IGP to propagate labels, they are just 
 called segments.
 Looks like it's using the same computations as rLFA in order to build 
 the tunnel towards the protection node.
 Now with this and routing-header in IPv6 do we really need LDP for 
 IPv6 (other than the targeted LDP sessions)?
 I'd like to play with this

Yeah, me too :-).

Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] Best Support of Tier 1 ISP

2013-07-09 Thread Jared Mauch
Let me know what is deficient with our IPv6 as I would like to improve. 

Jared Mauch

 On Jul 9, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Reuben Farrelly reuben-cisco-...@reub.net wrote:
 
 NTT have a pretty decent IPv6 backbone too, FWIW.

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 6500 mounting with cables

2013-07-09 Thread Aled Morris
On 9 July 2013 14:35, Chris Marget ch...@marget.com wrote:


 It's almost hard to find Cat5 these days - what's driving the demand?
 Surely people aren't buying Cat6 with TIA TSB-155 in mind, so why is
 the market flooded with better-but-not-meaningfully-so cable?


I've always put it down to FUD by cabling installation companies.  I had a
conversation with our building facilities people recently who'd been
advised by their cabling subcontractors that they needed to rip out the
obsolete cat5e from the office and run cat6a to the desktops.  They even
want to renew last year's cat6 in the computer room since 6a is the new
standard.

No technical justification, but I suspect the CEO of the cabling company
fancies a new yacht.

Aled
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Tarko Tikan

hey,


We kept them in the IS-IS level (i.e., L2-only), as Inter-
Area MPLS-TE is not supported without resorting to deploying
expanded loose hops for RSVP-TE sessions (p2p and p2mp).


FYI, starting from R11, ALU supports automatic ABR selection for 
inter-area RSVP LSPs. You don't need to manually specify loose hops any 
more.


--
tarko
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS XE

2013-07-09 Thread Pete Lumbis
What processor do you have. 1000v only supports Intel Nehalem based chips
https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/csr1000/release/notes/csr1000v_3Srn.html#wp3017606


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM, M K gunner_...@live.com wrote:

 Hi/I am trying to upload the Cisco CSR 1000 ova image , have anyone found
 a solution for the below message?
 %IOSXEBOOT-4-BOOT_HALT: (rp/0): Halted boot due to missing CPU feature
 requirement(s)
 Thanks
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Re: [c-nsp] MPLS down to the CPE

2013-07-09 Thread Phil Bedard


On 7/9/13 10:10 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

On Tuesday, July 09, 2013 10:43:20 AM Adam Vitkovsky wrote:

 Are the access rings in a separate area/level or
 running a separate igp, or how do you scale your
 backbone IGP please?

We kept them in the IS-IS level (i.e., L2-only), as Inter-
Area MPLS-TE is not supported without resorting to deploying
expanded loose hops for RSVP-TE sessions (p2p and p2mp).

The upside, simplicity and not running around
troubleshooting potential adjacency problems caused having
some routers being in the area a la L1 IS-IS.

The downside, NLRI changes in the IGP happening in one end
of the network would be heard by a router in another part
of the network that is not generally interested in them.

The weakest link was the smaller CPU's on the ME3600X, but
those are not that bad to be honest.

We opted to do that until the industry catches up with
scaling methods that aren't as complex as BGP Label Unicast.

Mark.


In our case we are using separate OSPF areas for the access elements,
IS-IS wasn't supported when we started doing the deployments.  Depending
on scale sometimes an entire agg location may use the same subtending
area, sometimes there are more than one, sometimes an area per access
ring.  The agg/core nodes of each local network sits in OSPF Area 0, and
the different network islands are tied together using CsC over a common
MPLS core.  Right now using LDP/OSPF handoffs since there were previously
some issues with doing RFC3107, but now should really should be migrated
to RFC3107.  If traffic levels increase enough we will build direct
circuits between the islands and use IS-IS as a core IGP, leaving OSPF
only in the access.   I've never liked the idea of doing inter-as RSVP-TE
except in unique situations, I'd rather use areas/levels and hierarchy
than a stateful session across boundaries.   At the ABR all of the L2VPN
services are stitched since you are entering a different RSVP-TE/MPLS
domain, the L3VPN configuration exists on these nodes with the access
nodes using L2 pseudowires into virtual L3 interfaces.   Cisco talks about
a similar architecture in their Unified MPLS for Mobile presentation
from the last Cisco Live.  Cisco has always called these ABR/agg nodes the
PWHE or pseudowire headend since they aggregate a large number of
pseudowires.  

Long-term there are various options to eliminate the stitching and
associated configuration, although we've got it pretty automated at this
point.  RFC3107 down to the access nodes will work but may overwhelm
routing tables if you have thousands of potential endpoints.  You also run
into scale issues with terminating BGP sessions from access nodes to RRs
or ABRs.   Another option is have the ABR do RFC3107 to LDP translation
(supported today) and have the access nodes setup in Downstream on Demand
mode so they request labels only for the destinations they need.  The
vendor (A) supports longest-prefix match for LDP, including the default
route, so you don't need to carry /32s in your IGP anymore.  Odd Juniper
wrote the RFC on that but (A) is the only vendor to implement it.

Phil 


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