Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-25 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light!

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Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ:

Seconded.

In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant.


Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM 

Seth Mattinen wrote:

It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional.
I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
painful to the point of causing extreme rage.

Download speeds are fine, though.


My download speeds are fine too.  My biggest gripe is how things keep 
changing and how fancy the pages are getting.  I can understand some 
bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be 
downright blah in my opinion.  I should be able to load up the support 
site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for.  Today we have 
to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, 
flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and 
timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?).


Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny 
bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a 
professional Cisco engineer would except and need.  After all, we use 
the command line all day long.  We don't need a stinking GUI.


Justin

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-25 Thread Irena Nikolova
And also without ts for some reason :)

Irena


2008/9/25 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light!

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 Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ:

  Seconded.

 In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is
 brilliant.

  Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM 

 Seth Mattinen wrote:

 It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
 out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional.
 I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
 painful to the point of causing extreme rage.

 Download speeds are fine, though.


 My download speeds are fine too.  My biggest gripe is how things keep
 changing and how fancy the pages are getting.  I can understand some bling
 on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright
 blah in my opinion.  I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if
 I have to and find what I'm looking for.  Today we have to deal with all
 those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript
 crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way
 too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?).

 Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling
 and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a
 professional Cisco engineer would except and need.  After all, we use the
 command line all day long.  We don't need a stinking GUI.

 Justin

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-25 Thread Raul Lopez Nevot
Suspicious... I can't believe that... maybe 'defaced' ?

2008/9/25 Irena Nikolova [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 And also without ts for some reason :)

 Irena


 2008/9/25 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light!
 
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  Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ:
 
   Seconded.
 
  In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is
  brilliant.
 
   Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM 
 
  Seth Mattinen wrote:
 
  It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
  out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and
 functional.
  I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
  877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
  painful to the point of causing extreme rage.
 
  Download speeds are fine, though.
 
 
  My download speeds are fine too.  My biggest gripe is how things keep
  changing and how fancy the pages are getting.  I can understand some
 bling
  on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be
 downright
  blah in my opinion.  I should be able to load up the support site in
 lynx if
  I have to and find what I'm looking for.  Today we have to deal with all
  those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and
 javascript
  crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are
 way
  too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?).
 
  Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny
 bling
  and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a
  professional Cisco engineer would except and need.  After all, we use
 the
  command line all day long.  We don't need a stinking GUI.
 
  Justin
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-25 Thread Kris Price

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light!


Ha. Some kind of s/t//g error perhaps.

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-25 Thread Jay Hennigan

Irena Nikolova wrote:

And also without ts for some reason :)


rue bu i sure loads fas now.  :-)

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread S H A N
hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight...
what do you think?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi all.

 Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months,
 I've found the performance (response times) when browsing
 www.cisco.com is not all too great.

 I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in
 some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go
 back to not_being_so_good.

 Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?

 The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO
 as well.

 Cheers,

 Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Ziv Leyes

That's because they use Huawei gear in their networks... ;-)




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Subject: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

Hi all.

Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the 
performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great.

I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is 
short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good.

Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?

The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well.

Cheers,

Mark.



 
 

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Daniel Hooper
Cisco.com has been slow for me for some time now as well.

-Dan

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or
limelight...
what do you think?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi all.

 Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months,
 I've found the performance (response times) when browsing
 www.cisco.com is not all too great.

 I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in
 some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go
 back to not_being_so_good.

 Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?

 The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO
 as well.

 Cheers,

 Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Jared Mauch

I typically have no problem getting at least 2MB/sec from
cisco when dowloading software.

- Jared

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:30:23PM +0800, Daniel Hooper wrote:
 Cisco.com has been slow for me for some time now as well.
 
 -Dan
 
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 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
 
 hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or
 limelight...
 what do you think?
 
 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
  Hi all.
 
  Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months,
  I've found the performance (response times) when browsing
  www.cisco.com is not all too great.
 
  I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in
  some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go
  back to not_being_so_good.
 
  Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?
 
  The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO
  as well.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Mark.
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
Mark Tinka wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, 
 I've found the performance (response times) when browsing 
 www.cisco.com is not all too great.
 
 I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in 
 some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go 
 back to not_being_so_good.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?

It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional.
I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
painful to the point of causing extreme rage.

Download speeds are fine, though.

~Seth
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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Scott McGrath
How about bringing back the old Mustard and Olive CCO the one which 
actually worked...


S H A N wrote:

hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight...
what do you think?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  

Hi all.

Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months,
I've found the performance (response times) when browsing
www.cisco.com is not all too great.

I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in
some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go
back to not_being_so_good.

Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me?

The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO
as well.

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:03:27PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote:
 Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, 
 I've found the performance (response times) when browsing 
 www.cisco.com is not all too great.

I've found issues with my browser - I use Mozilla Seamonkey, the
continuation of the suite version of Mozilla.  Interactive tools like
Bug Toolkit and the IOS Feature Navigator do not load in Seamonkey.
Browsing them with Firefox is a much better experience.

It's a bit perplexing, since they are both Gecko based, but hey, it's
not enough of a headache for me to really care.

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Justin Shore

Seth Mattinen wrote:

It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional.
I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
painful to the point of causing extreme rage.

Download speeds are fine, though.


My download speeds are fine too.  My biggest gripe is how things keep 
changing and how fancy the pages are getting.  I can understand some 
bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be 
downright blah in my opinion.  I should be able to load up the support 
site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for.  Today we have 
to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, 
flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and 
timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?).


Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny 
bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a 
professional Cisco engineer would except and need.  After all, we use 
the command line all day long.  We don't need a stinking GUI.


Justin

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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Sridhar Ayengar

Ross Vandegrift wrote:

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:03:27PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote:
Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, 
I've found the performance (response times) when browsing 
www.cisco.com is not all too great.


I've found issues with my browser - I use Mozilla Seamonkey, the
continuation of the suite version of Mozilla.  Interactive tools like
Bug Toolkit and the IOS Feature Navigator do not load in Seamonkey.
Browsing them with Firefox is a much better experience.

It's a bit perplexing, since they are both Gecko based, but hey, it's
not enough of a headache for me to really care.


They work fine in SeaMonkey here.

Peace...  Sridhar
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Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com

2008-09-24 Thread Sean Granger
Seconded.

In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant.

 Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM 
Seth Mattinen wrote:
 It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came
 out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional.
 I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my
 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly
 painful to the point of causing extreme rage.
 
 Download speeds are fine, though.

My download speeds are fine too.  My biggest gripe is how things keep 
changing and how fancy the pages are getting.  I can understand some 
bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be 
downright blah in my opinion.  I should be able to load up the support 
site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for.  Today we have 
to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, 
flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and 
timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?).

Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny 
bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a 
professional Cisco engineer would except and need.  After all, we use 
the command line all day long.  We don't need a stinking GUI.

Justin

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