Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light! -- Tassos Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ: Seconded. In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant. Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM Seth Mattinen wrote: It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. My download speeds are fine too. My biggest gripe is how things keep changing and how fancy the pages are getting. I can understand some bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright blah in my opinion. I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for. Today we have to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?). Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a professional Cisco engineer would except and need. After all, we use the command line all day long. We don't need a stinking GUI. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
And also without ts for some reason :) Irena 2008/9/25 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light! -- Tassos Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ: Seconded. In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant. Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM Seth Mattinen wrote: It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. My download speeds are fine too. My biggest gripe is how things keep changing and how fancy the pages are getting. I can understand some bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright blah in my opinion. I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for. Today we have to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?). Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a professional Cisco engineer would except and need. After all, we use the command line all day long. We don't need a stinking GUI. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Suspicious... I can't believe that... maybe 'defaced' ? 2008/9/25 Irena Nikolova [EMAIL PROTECTED] And also without ts for some reason :) Irena 2008/9/25 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light! -- Tassos Sean Granger wrote on 24/9/2008 11:35 μμ: Seconded. In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant. Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM Seth Mattinen wrote: It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. My download speeds are fine too. My biggest gripe is how things keep changing and how fancy the pages are getting. I can understand some bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright blah in my opinion. I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for. Today we have to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?). Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a professional Cisco engineer would except and need. After all, we use the command line all day long. We don't need a stinking GUI. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Someone heard all of you and made www.cisco.com extra-light! Ha. Some kind of s/t//g error perhaps. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Irena Nikolova wrote: And also without ts for some reason :) rue bu i sure loads fas now. :-) -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight... what do you think? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well. Cheers, Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Best Regards. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
That's because they use Huawei gear in their networks... ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:03 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well. Cheers, Mark. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Cisco.com has been slow for me for some time now as well. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S H A N Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight... what do you think? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well. Cheers, Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Best Regards. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
I typically have no problem getting at least 2MB/sec from cisco when dowloading software. - Jared On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 06:30:23PM +0800, Daniel Hooper wrote: Cisco.com has been slow for me for some time now as well. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S H A N Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight... what do you think? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well. Cheers, Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Best Regards. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from [EMAIL PROTECTED] clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Mark Tinka wrote: Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. ~Seth ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
How about bringing back the old Mustard and Olive CCO the one which actually worked... S H A N wrote: hi, i guess its about time the cco should sit behind akamai or limelight... what do you think? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mark Tinka [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all. Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've tried using different paths to reach the site, and in some cases, there is short-lived improvement, and things go back to not_being_so_good. Is anyone else seeing this, or it's just me? The problem seems to extend to downloading files off of CCO as well. Cheers, Mark. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:03:27PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've found issues with my browser - I use Mozilla Seamonkey, the continuation of the suite version of Mozilla. Interactive tools like Bug Toolkit and the IOS Feature Navigator do not load in Seamonkey. Browsing them with Firefox is a much better experience. It's a bit perplexing, since they are both Gecko based, but hey, it's not enough of a headache for me to really care. -- Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell. --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37 ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Seth Mattinen wrote: It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. My download speeds are fine too. My biggest gripe is how things keep changing and how fancy the pages are getting. I can understand some bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright blah in my opinion. I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for. Today we have to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?). Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a professional Cisco engineer would except and need. After all, we use the command line all day long. We don't need a stinking GUI. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 05:03:27PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: Not sure if it's just me but for the past several months, I've found the performance (response times) when browsing www.cisco.com is not all too great. I've found issues with my browser - I use Mozilla Seamonkey, the continuation of the suite version of Mozilla. Interactive tools like Bug Toolkit and the IOS Feature Navigator do not load in Seamonkey. Browsing them with Firefox is a much better experience. It's a bit perplexing, since they are both Gecko based, but hey, it's not enough of a headache for me to really care. They work fine in SeaMonkey here. Peace... Sridhar ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Performance Of www.cisco.com
Seconded. In fact, it's a common sense thing that since it's not being done, is brilliant. Justin Shore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/08 01:43PM Seth Mattinen wrote: It's been slow for me since this current iteration of the design came out. I just attributed it to the tradeoff between flashy and functional. I was stuck on a dialup modem (21k) once during an emergency after my 877 at home failed and trying to access my TAC case online was horribly painful to the point of causing extreme rage. Download speeds are fine, though. My download speeds are fine too. My biggest gripe is how things keep changing and how fancy the pages are getting. I can understand some bling on the product and marketing pages but the support pages should be downright blah in my opinion. I should be able to load up the support site in lynx if I have to and find what I'm looking for. Today we have to deal with all those damn style sheets, indirect linking through CGIs, flash and javascript crap, having to (re)authenticate at every turn, and timeouts that are way too short (can you say Dynamic Config Tool?). Like I said earlier, give the product and marketing pages the shiny bling and give the support pages the look, feel and function of what a professional Cisco engineer would except and need. After all, we use the command line all day long. We don't need a stinking GUI. Justin ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/