Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
Sure, you could fence them off if creating an isolated or appropriately gapped network is in your wheelhouse. Since the devices are usually used with pass through, they’re potentially exposed to some issues regardless of how well you try and secure the address space of the phones. In my case I

Re: [cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

2020-09-24 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a few Cisco published cleaning documents. They were posted in forums. Couldn’t really find a live link. People were really worried about the touch tens for example. Cisco wanted them to use specific cleaning materials. From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of James Buchanan

Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
I’m guessing, based on conversations that I had with a few Cisco folk, that, yes, TAC support will likely change along with this. Expect Basic level support for free. And, to my surprise, expect that Basic level support to match Webex basic level support. It will be painful is my prediction.

Re: [cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

2020-09-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Thankfully I don't have to deal with that, but if it were me, I'd ask my management/HR to get involved, get the CDC suggested methods (assuming you are in the US), and let them draft a policy and implement it. This is all primarily to CYA, because you don't want to be blamed for anything that

[cisco-voip] Keeping my phone clean in the age of Covid-19 and other nasty germs

2020-09-24 Thread James Buchanan
Hello, What are you guys doing to ensure phones are kept clean, especially in shared spaces? I don't know much about the potential health issues of sharing a handset--maybe it's a non-issue. Is there an argument here for ripping out handsets and going soft client just to make sure? Honest

Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread James Buchanan
Hello, I know the security argument is valid in some respects. But, if I have an insecure IoT device on the network, like a temperature control system, I don't have the option of replacing it. So, I ring fence it. I isolate it so that it can't be exploited, etc. Maybe I'm missing something, but

Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread James Andrewartha
We’re still running 10 year old 79x5s (despite their cold boot RAM failure issue) and won’t be replacing them until next year at the earliest, I think most organisations would want to sweat at least 10 years out of their handsets. I mean what features does an 8800 have over an old 7940 if all

Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread James Buchanan
Maybe Cisco needs to buy up all those 7940s from eBay to get them off the market for good :-). On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:30 PM Anthony Holloway < avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote: > This statement from the link is interesting to me: > > "...opportunity to move to newer phone models and

Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Anthony Holloway
Oops! "tierd TAC support" was intended. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:30 AM Charles Goldsmith wrote: > "come with *tired* TAC support?" > > I bet they are! > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:23 AM Anthony Holloway < > avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's great info, thank you for

Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread Anthony Holloway
This statement from the link is interesting to me: "...opportunity to move to newer phone models and clients at a pace that is reasonable." - 8800 series was released 8 years ago - 7940's have been end of support since 5 years ago On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:20 AM Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:

Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Charles Goldsmith
"come with *tired* TAC support?" I bet they are! On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:23 AM Anthony Holloway < avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's great info, thank you for sharing. > > Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing? Because, > doesn't Flex come with tired

Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Matthew Loraditch
Flex has and will include the same TAC access you’ve had for software with SWSS (24x7) for no additional cost. There are enhanced levels that cost more and come with additional features. I don’t honestly know the details on those, they are designed for large/hi touch accounts, I think dedicated

Re: [cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Anthony Holloway
That's great info, thank you for sharing. Does this mean that "traditional" tac support is also changing? Because, doesn't Flex come with tired TAC support? Any info you can share there? Thanks! On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:48 AM Matthew Loraditch < mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com> wrote: > >

[cisco-voip] End of Sale for Perpetual Calling Licenses and related SWSS

2020-09-24 Thread Matthew Loraditch
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744285.html https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/unified-communications-licensing/eos-eol-notice-c51-744286.html Everything CUCM/UCXN is

Re: [cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Yeah, there was some talk about this in the forums. Someone from Cisco said, “watch the page for some changes we think you’ll like”. Wish they would update the “updated” date. Lelio From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of James Buchanan Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM To: voyp list,

[cisco-voip] Deprecated phones in CUCM 14

2020-09-24 Thread James Buchanan
Hello, So, Cisco changed their mind for now: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/trouble/14_0_1/fieldNotices/cucm_b_deprecated-phones-14.html Thanks, James ___ cisco-voip mailing list cisco-voip@puck.nether.net