date:20190528

Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi

Actually – I think that’s in the steps somewhere. I read that I think.

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From: Ryan Huff 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:19 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: NateCCIE ; Bill Talley ; voyp list, 
cisco-voip 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

Actually, I prefer to disable IMP HA before installing in the inactive PT. This 
way, if you have to flip back to the other partition for some reason, IMP is 
already in an “HA disabled” state, which tends to make IMP recover a little 
better in my experience. Then just enable HA once everything is stable.
Thanks,

Ryan

On May 28, 2019, at 14:03, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Personally, I hate the fact that IM can’t be restarted without first 
disabling HA. So basically, if you have an unattended restart, you have to go 
in and make configuration changes.

Yuck.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
 | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



From: NateCCIE mailto:natec...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; 'Bill Talley' 
mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Cc: 'voyp list, cisco-voip' 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

Yeah, I HATE this bug.  Why in the world can’t the docwiki or what ever it’s 
called be updated quicker than a bug be filed/made universally known, and who 
came up with these recommendations TAC or the BU.

But I have seem IMP just not start services, and adding resources magic fix it.

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade


In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….

holy schnikes

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees? 

Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).

I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of 
capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.

Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old 
OVA information.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
 | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



From: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.

Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.

IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated
CSCvk65006
Description
Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150

Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Ryan Huff

Actually, I prefer to disable IMP HA before installing in the inactive PT. This 
way, if you have to flip back to the other partition for some reason, IMP is 
already in an “HA disabled” state, which tends to make IMP recover a little 
better in my experience. Then just enable HA once everything is stable.

Thanks,

Ryan

On May 28, 2019, at 14:03, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:


Personally, I hate the fact that IM can’t be restarted without first 
disabling HA. So basically, if you have an unattended restart, you have to go 
in and make configuration changes.

Yuck.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
 | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



From: NateCCIE mailto:natec...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; 'Bill Talley' 
mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Cc: 'voyp list, cisco-voip' 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

Yeah, I HATE this bug.  Why in the world can’t the docwiki or what ever it’s 
called be updated quicker than a bug be filed/made universally known, and who 
came up with these recommendations TAC or the BU.

But I have seem IMP just not start services, and adding resources magic fix it.

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade


In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….

holy schnikes

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees? 

Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).

I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of 
capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.

Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old 
OVA information.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs
 | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook



From: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.

Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.

IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated
CSCvk65006
Description
Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

Conditions:
Performance Issues

Workaround:
Manually increase resources according to the table below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.




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my typtos.

On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time

Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi


Personally, I hate the fact that IM can’t be restarted without first 
disabling HA. So basically, if you have an unattended restart, you have to go 
in and make configuration changes.

Yuck.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: NateCCIE 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; 'Bill Talley' 
Cc: 'voyp list, cisco-voip' 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

Yeah, I HATE this bug.  Why in the world can’t the docwiki or what ever it’s 
called be updated quicker than a bug be filed/made universally known, and who 
came up with these recommendations TAC or the BU.

But I have seem IMP just not start services, and adding resources magic fix it.

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade


In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….

holy schnikes

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees? 

Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).

I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of 
capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.

Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old 
OVA information.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip 
(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.

Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.

IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated
CSCvk65006
Description
Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

Conditions:
Performance Issues

Workaround:
Manually increase resources according to the table below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.




Sent from an iOS device with very tiny touchscreen input keys.  Please excude 
my typtos.

On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | 
@UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter

Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread NateCCIE

Yeah, I HATE this bug.  Why in the world can’t the docwiki or what ever it’s 
called be updated quicker than a bug be filed/made universally known, and who 
came up with these recommendations TAC or the BU.

 

But I have seem IMP just not start services, and adding resources magic fix it.

 

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 9:46 AM
To: Bill Talley 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

 

 

In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….

 

holy schnikes

 

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

 

They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees? 

 

Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).

 

I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of 
capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.

 

Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old 
OVA information.

 

---

Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst

Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph

Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1

519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 |   le...@uoguelph.ca

 

  www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

 



 

From: Bill Talley mailto:btal...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> >
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
 ) mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> >
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

 

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.

 

Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.

 

IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated

CSCvk65006

Description

Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

Conditions:
Performance Issues

Workaround:
Manually increase resources according to the table below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

 

 

 

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my typtos.


On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> > wrote:


I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca  


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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi


In the words of the immortal Chris Farley….

holy schnikes

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.

They want 4 vCPU if possible? They think these things grow on trees? 

Right now, our two IMP servers are at 2 vCPU and 4GB of RAM. (5000 user OVA).

I’ll have to see about coordinating this change as well. We don’t have a lot of 
capacity/activity on these servers, so I think we should be OK for now.

Funny thing – Bug updated May 20, 2019, but virtualization docs still show old 
OVA information.

---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

[University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline]

From: Bill Talley 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:08 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.


Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.


IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated
CSCvk65006
Description
Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

Conditions:
Performance Issues

Workaround:
Manually increase resources according to the table below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.




Sent from an iOS device with very tiny touchscreen input keys.  Please excude 
my typtos.

On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


---
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | 
le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | 
@UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook

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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Bill Talley

That’s the process I typically follow without issues.

Also, I can’t recall if this was posted here, but wanted to make sure you’ve 
seen the recent changes to resource requirements for IM   This may not apply 
to you if you have more than 5000 users.

IM VM resource requirements needs to be updated
CSCvk65006
Description
Symptom:
IM version 11.5.1.x or 12.0.1.x installed using one of the following 
configuration:
150 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 2 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 1vCPU 4 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 4 GB RAM

Customers with any of the above configuration might notice an increase use of 
CPU and Memory resources.

This can be fixed by manually increasing the resources according to the table 
below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

Conditions:
Performance Issues

Workaround:
Manually increase resources according to the table below:
150 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
1,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM
5,000 users (Full UC) 2vCPU 8 GB RAM

If possible, it is recommended to have 4vCPU and 8 GB RAM as we are seeing more 
cases with high CPU due to resources related.



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> On May 28, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:
> 
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html
> 
> and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
> same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the 
> IMP pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.
> 
> Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?
> 
> Sure would save a lot of time.
> 
> Lelio
> 
> 
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> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
> 2W1
> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca
> 
> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
> Twitter and Facebook
> 
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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi


I hear ya. I thought about that. But since we don’t do this very often, and we 
do have a window of opportunity, I wanted to take the safe approach.

I would hate to hit an undocumented feature that caused a service outage as 
part of upgrading the inactive partition.


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From: NateCCIE 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:37 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; 'Ryan Huff' 
Cc: 'voyp list, cisco-voip' 
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

Lelio,

Are you apposed to upgrading the inactive partition during working hours?  For 
my planning, the upgrade window starts when the bumps in service occur, which 
is usually the switch version.

There are some cases where the upgrade is not “online” there is a R1/R2 upgrade 
designation for this, where it is also upgrading the OS, but those are fairly 
rare.

Thanks,
-Nate

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On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade


Sweet. Thanks. I need to map out the window I have and see how this all fits in.

I really hate how the version compatibility is _so_ tight with the IMP cluster 
now.  One more thing to have to worry about.

Oh well.

TAC just gave me some advice to see how long the DB replication would take 
after the switch version. Ahead of time, I do a “utils dbreplication status” 
and then “utils dbreplication runtimestate” until all tables show synced and 
take that time.

Does that sound about right?

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Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
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From: Ryan Huff mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:04 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
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(cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 
mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

This is what I do for an in-place upgrade with no other changes (hostname, IP 
address.. etc).

I do the cucm pub first (obviously), then imp pub (which is more like a cucm 
sub for upgrade purposes), then all the cucm and imp subs; everything into the 
inactive pt.

I do the pubs individually, then I’ll do a couple subs at a time .. etc.

Next I Switch version on the pubs; cucm, imp then the subs.

On the switch version, I wait till one node is fully up (tomcat started) before 
switching another.

May not be as efficient as it could be, but has kept me out of trouble thus 
far; plan your dive, dive your plan.

On May 28, 2019, at 09:48, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I’m reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread NateCCIE

Lelio,

 

Are you apposed to upgrading the inactive partition during working hours?  For 
my planning, the upgrade window starts when the bumps in service occur, which 
is usually the switch version.

 

There are some cases where the upgrade is not “online” there is a R1/R2 upgrade 
designation for this, where it is also upgrading the OS, but those are fairly 
rare.

 

Thanks,

-Nate

 

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:23 AM
To: Ryan Huff 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

 

 

Sweet. Thanks. I need to map out the window I have and see how this all fits 
in. 

 

I really hate how the version compatibility is _so_ tight with the IMP cluster 
now.  One more thing to have to worry about.

 

Oh well.

 

TAC just gave me some advice to see how long the DB replication would take 
after the switch version. Ahead of time, I do a “utils dbreplication status” 
and then “utils dbreplication runtimestate” until all tables show synced and 
take that time.

 

Does that sound about right?

 

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Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1

519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca  

 

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Twitter and Facebook

 



 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:04 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> >
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
 ) mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> >
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

 

This is what I do for an in-place upgrade with no other changes (hostname, IP 
address.. etc). 

 

I do the cucm pub first (obviously), then imp pub (which is more like a cucm 
sub for upgrade purposes), then all the cucm and imp subs; everything into the 
inactive pt. 

 

I do the pubs individually, then I’ll do a couple subs at a time .. etc.

 

Next I Switch version on the pubs; cucm, imp then the subs.

 

On the switch version, I wait till one node is fully up (tomcat started) before 
switching another.

 

May not be as efficient as it could be, but has kept me out of trouble thus 
far; plan your dive, dive your plan.


On May 28, 2019, at 09:48, Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> > wrote:

 

I’m reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html
 

 

 

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

 

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before? 

 

Sure would save a lot of time.

 

Lelio

 

 

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Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1

519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca  

 

 

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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi


Sweet. Thanks. I need to map out the window I have and see how this all fits in.

I really hate how the version compatibility is _so_ tight with the IMP cluster 
now.  One more thing to have to worry about.

Oh well.

TAC just gave me some advice to see how long the DB replication would take 
after the switch version. Ahead of time, I do a “utils dbreplication status” 
and then “utils dbreplication runtimestate” until all tables show synced and 
take that time.

Does that sound about right?

---
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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | le...@uoguelph.ca

www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, 
Twitter and Facebook

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From: Ryan Huff 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:04 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) 

Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

This is what I do for an in-place upgrade with no other changes (hostname, IP 
address.. etc).

I do the cucm pub first (obviously), then imp pub (which is more like a cucm 
sub for upgrade purposes), then all the cucm and imp subs; everything into the 
inactive pt.

I do the pubs individually, then I’ll do a couple subs at a time .. etc.

Next I Switch version on the pubs; cucm, imp then the subs.

On the switch version, I wait till one node is fully up (tomcat started) before 
switching another.

May not be as efficient as it could be, but has kept me out of trouble thus 
far; plan your dive, dive your plan.

On May 28, 2019, at 09:48, Lelio Fulgenzi 
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I’m reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


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Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
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Re: [cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Ryan Huff

This is what I do for an in-place upgrade with no other changes (hostname, IP
address.. etc).

I do the cucm pub first (obviously), then imp pub (which is more like a cucm
sub for upgrade purposes), then all the cucm and imp subs; everything into the
inactive pt.

I do the pubs individually, then I’ll do a couple subs at a time .. etc.

Next I Switch version on the pubs; cucm, imp then the subs.

On the switch version, I wait till one node is fully up (tomcat started) before
switching another.

May not be as efficient as it could be, but has kept me out of trouble thus
far; plan your dive, dive your plan.

On May 28, 2019, at 09:48, Lelio Fulgenzi
mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

I’m reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio

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[cisco-voip] IM Upgrade Steps during CUCM upgrade

2019-05-28 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi


I'm reading the upgrade guide, specifically, the time sequencing:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/upgrade/11_5_1/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115/cucm_b_upgrade-guide-cucm-115_chapter_010010.html

and it mentions upgrading the IM publisher (to inactive partition) at the 
same time as upgrading the subscribers. Then doing a switch version on the IMP 
pub at the same time as the CUCM subs.

Anyone do this parallel type upgrade before?

Sure would save a lot of time.

Lelio


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