Re: [cisco-voip] Wireless Phones

2018-03-21 Thread Scott Voll 
Not sure how far the wireless needs to go, but we have used Plantronic
headsets and they get most of the floor coverage.

But have started to move to Jabber for the Iphone ( we do have
expressways).  That has been expanding like wildfire.  It might expand
enough that we will finally be able to get rid of Skype ;-)

Scott


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:12 AM, Gary Parker  wrote:

>
>
> > On 15 Mar 2018, at 21:00, Natambu Obleton 
> wrote:
> >
> > What are people using for wireless phones? Any good experiences?
>
> Sadly only bad experience here. When we first moved to CUCM from an isdx 8
> years ago our users where generally unhappy with the lack of DECT product
> from Cisco. We tried putting PSTN DECT basestations on ATAs but found those
> to be very unreliable. Cisco’s wifi handsets are prohibitively expensive
> and, last time we looked, had poor battery life and required per device
> certificates to get on our 802.1x wifi.
>
> We tried out the Cisco SMB offering, the SPA232D DECT/SIP bridge and
> handsets. They were able to register as “advanced SIP devices” in
> callmanager but we found them to be quite unreliable, the handsets were
> fragile and broke often, and Cisco eventually discontinued them.
>
> I’m aware of enterprise DECT/SIP gateways such as Aastra (which now
> appears to have been bought by Mitel) and we looked into this, but the
> initial investment to install was deemed to high for our site as user
> density in any one place wouldn’t justify the cost.
>
> I’m now recommending users make use of remote destination with their work
> mobiles. It’s a bit more management over head for me, but it’s the best
> we’ve been able to offer. I keep asking Cisco for cucm compatible DECT
> product but it seems they’re not interested.
>
>
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Re: [cisco-voip] Wireless Phones

2018-03-21 Thread Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) 
For DECT Spectralink has phones on the Cisco GPL via SolutionsPlus.
https://www.spectralink.com/sites/default/files/Spectralink_Cisco_PrdctOver_A4_030215.pdf

-Ryan

On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Brian Meade 
> wrote:

Cisco just announced some DECT headsets so maybe they'll have the expertise to 
do something like this in the future.  But I don't see Cisco selling a product 
that gets customers away from buying their wireless infrastructure.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 5:12 AM, Gary Parker 
> wrote:


> On 15 Mar 2018, at 21:00, Natambu Obleton 
> > wrote:
>
> What are people using for wireless phones? Any good experiences?

Sadly only bad experience here. When we first moved to CUCM from an isdx 8 
years ago our users where generally unhappy with the lack of DECT product from 
Cisco. We tried putting PSTN DECT basestations on ATAs but found those to be 
very unreliable. Cisco’s wifi handsets are prohibitively expensive and, last 
time we looked, had poor battery life and required per device certificates to 
get on our 802.1x wifi.

We tried out the Cisco SMB offering, the SPA232D DECT/SIP bridge and handsets. 
They were able to register as “advanced SIP devices” in callmanager but we 
found them to be quite unreliable, the handsets were fragile and broke often, 
and Cisco eventually discontinued them.

I’m aware of enterprise DECT/SIP gateways such as Aastra (which now appears to 
have been bought by Mitel) and we looked into this, but the initial investment 
to install was deemed to high for our site as user density in any one place 
wouldn’t justify the cost.

I’m now recommending users make use of remote destination with their work 
mobiles. It’s a bit more management over head for me, but it’s the best we’ve 
been able to offer. I keep asking Cisco for cucm compatible DECT product but it 
seems they’re not interested.


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Re: [cisco-voip] Wireless Phones

2018-03-16 Thread Brian Meade 
Cisco just announced some DECT headsets so maybe they'll have the expertise
to do something like this in the future.  But I don't see Cisco selling a
product that gets customers away from buying their wireless infrastructure.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 5:12 AM, Gary Parker  wrote:

>
>
> > On 15 Mar 2018, at 21:00, Natambu Obleton 
> wrote:
> >
> > What are people using for wireless phones? Any good experiences?
>
> Sadly only bad experience here. When we first moved to CUCM from an isdx 8
> years ago our users where generally unhappy with the lack of DECT product
> from Cisco. We tried putting PSTN DECT basestations on ATAs but found those
> to be very unreliable. Cisco’s wifi handsets are prohibitively expensive
> and, last time we looked, had poor battery life and required per device
> certificates to get on our 802.1x wifi.
>
> We tried out the Cisco SMB offering, the SPA232D DECT/SIP bridge and
> handsets. They were able to register as “advanced SIP devices” in
> callmanager but we found them to be quite unreliable, the handsets were
> fragile and broke often, and Cisco eventually discontinued them.
>
> I’m aware of enterprise DECT/SIP gateways such as Aastra (which now
> appears to have been bought by Mitel) and we looked into this, but the
> initial investment to install was deemed to high for our site as user
> density in any one place wouldn’t justify the cost.
>
> I’m now recommending users make use of remote destination with their work
> mobiles. It’s a bit more management over head for me, but it’s the best
> we’ve been able to offer. I keep asking Cisco for cucm compatible DECT
> product but it seems they’re not interested.
>
>
> ---
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> | Unified Communications Service Manager  |
> n  Loughborough University, IT Services   |
> | tel:+441509635635 sip:g...@lboro.ac.uk  o
> |https://www.osx.ninja/pubkey.txt |
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Re: [cisco-voip] Wireless Phones

2018-03-16 Thread Gary Parker 


> On 15 Mar 2018, at 21:00, Natambu Obleton  wrote:
> 
> What are people using for wireless phones? Any good experiences?

Sadly only bad experience here. When we first moved to CUCM from an isdx 8 
years ago our users where generally unhappy with the lack of DECT product from 
Cisco. We tried putting PSTN DECT basestations on ATAs but found those to be 
very unreliable. Cisco’s wifi handsets are prohibitively expensive and, last 
time we looked, had poor battery life and required per device certificates to 
get on our 802.1x wifi.

We tried out the Cisco SMB offering, the SPA232D DECT/SIP bridge and handsets. 
They were able to register as “advanced SIP devices” in callmanager but we 
found them to be quite unreliable, the handsets were fragile and broke often, 
and Cisco eventually discontinued them.

I’m aware of enterprise DECT/SIP gateways such as Aastra (which now appears to 
have been bought by Mitel) and we looked into this, but the initial investment 
to install was deemed to high for our site as user density in any one place 
wouldn’t justify the cost.

I’m now recommending users make use of remote destination with their work 
mobiles. It’s a bit more management over head for me, but it’s the best we’ve 
been able to offer. I keep asking Cisco for cucm compatible DECT product but it 
seems they’re not interested.


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[cisco-voip] Wireless Phones

2018-03-15 Thread Natambu Obleton 
What are people using for wireless phones? Any good experiences?

TIA

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