Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-12-08 Thread Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions
This is how I stop the cert error,

As you stated, clear the cache folders and then use the following installation 
switch, it works 100% on Jabber version 12.9.5

msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

 

Gary

 

 

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Riley, Sean
Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2021 12:36 AM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

I received the same answer from tac as others.  They have a but ID, but the 
workaround to disable telemetry is incorrect as we have had this disabled in 
the xml for a couple of years now.  We will be upgrading with the install 
switch to disable webex going forward.  Hopefully this puts a stop to this cert 
warning.

 

https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCvg82067

 

>From support:

One of the workarounds that I mentioned was to disable the Webex service, do 
you think you can try that?

 

Uninstall Jabber, clear the cache and install it with the following command:

msiexec.exe CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=Webex

 

 

 

From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Riley, Sean
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 12:17 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

We did not start to see the cert warnings until 11/15/21.  Not sure if that 
helps correlate with a certificate expiring, etc.

 

From: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> > 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 6:18 PM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au <mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au> 
Cc: Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> >; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

 

They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.  

 

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it 
works.  

 

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues? 

 

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed. 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au> > wrote:

 

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<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca> 

 

Hi there

 

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

 

Fix we applied was as follows:

 

1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall 
old version)
2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below

 

msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

 

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

 

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles

Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"

$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"

$users | ForEach-Object {

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"

 

3.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.

 

HTH

 

Gary

 

From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> >
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.  

 

We’ve only had a few cases. 

 

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.  

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> > wrote:

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca 
<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca> 

 

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

 

We a

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-12-08 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi

Do we know if we have to uninstall Jabber? Or is upgrading/re-installing with 
those command lines sufficient?

I can’t recall if upgrading uninstalls files first.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2021, at 8:42 AM, Riley, Sean  wrote:



CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca

I received the same answer from tac as others.  They have a but ID, but the 
workaround to disable telemetry is incorrect as we have had this disabled in 
the xml for a couple of years now.  We will be upgrading with the install 
switch to disable webex going forward.  Hopefully this puts a stop to this cert 
warning.

https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCvg82067

From support:
One of the workarounds that I mentioned was to disable the Webex service, do 
you think you can try that?

Uninstall Jabber, clear the cache and install it with the following command:
msiexec.exe CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=Webex



From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Riley, Sean
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 12:17 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

We did not start to see the cert warnings until 11/15/21.  Not sure if that 
helps correlate with a certificate expiring, etc.

From: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 6:18 PM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au<mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>
Cc: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert


They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it works.

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues?

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed.
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Hi there

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

Fix we applied was as follows:


  1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall old 
version)
  2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below


msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles
Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"
$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"
$users | ForEach-Object {
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"


  1.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.


HTH

Gary

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is runni

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-12-08 Thread Riley, Sean
I received the same answer from tac as others.  They have a but ID, but the 
workaround to disable telemetry is incorrect as we have had this disabled in 
the xml for a couple of years now.  We will be upgrading with the install 
switch to disable webex going forward.  Hopefully this puts a stop to this cert 
warning.

https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCvg82067

From support:
One of the workarounds that I mentioned was to disable the Webex service, do 
you think you can try that?

Uninstall Jabber, clear the cache and install it with the following command:
msiexec.exe CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=Webex



From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Riley, Sean
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 12:17 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

We did not start to see the cert warnings until 11/15/21.  Not sure if that 
helps correlate with a certificate expiring, etc.

From: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 6:18 PM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au<mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>
Cc: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert


They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it works.

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues?

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed.
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Hi there

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

Fix we applied was as follows:


  1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall old 
version)
  2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below


msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles
Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"
$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"
$users | ForEach-Object {
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"


  1.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.


HTH

Gary

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


  1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
  2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers tru

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-30 Thread Riley, Sean
We did not start to see the cert warnings until 11/15/21.  Not sure if that 
helps correlate with a certificate expiring, etc.

From: Lelio Fulgenzi 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 6:18 PM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au
Cc: Riley, Sean ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert


They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it works.

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues?

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed.
Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Hi there

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

Fix we applied was as follows:


  1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall old 
version)
  2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below


msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles
Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"
$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"
$users | ForEach-Object {
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"


  1.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.


HTH

Gary

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


  1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
  2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via GPO.

Thanks.


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; Gary Parker 
mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian V 
mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason.

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian 
V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't d

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-30 Thread Riley, Sean
I will open a TAC case as well.  Maybe enough of those will get us an answer 
that does not require reinstalling.  I do wish I could easily reproduce, but I 
am not able to at this time.

Sean.

From: Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 7:08 PM
To: 'Lelio Fulgenzi' 
Cc: Riley, Sean ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Hi Lelio

I was told by a Cisco rep its all to do with Cisco’s arrogant sales strategy, 
trying to get all on-prem users to switchover to either Hybrid Jabber / Hybrid 
Webex or full cloud connection with Webex.

Unfortunately, it wasn’t communicated honestly and up front, my customer is 
very annoyed with Cisco and is slowly migrating towards MS Teams calling

I don’t see any “fixes” now, only the way we could solve it is following the 
procedure below

Gary

From: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:18 AM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au<mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>
Cc: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert


They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it works.

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues?

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed.
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Hi there

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

Fix we applied was as follows:


  1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall old 
version)
  2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below


msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles
Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"
$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"
$users | ForEach-Object {
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"


  1.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.


HTH

Gary

From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


  1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
  2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via GPO.

Thanks.


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-30 Thread Gary Parker


> On 30 Nov 2021, at 00:08, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was told by a Cisco rep its all to do with Cisco’s arrogant sales strategy, 
> trying to get all on-prem users to switchover to either Hybrid Jabber / 
> Hybrid Webex or full cloud connection with Webex.
>  
> Unfortunately, it wasn’t communicated honestly and up front, my customer is 
> very annoyed with Cisco and is slowly migrating towards MS Teams calling

For the benefit of anyone watching from Cisco: this is pretty much how our 
experience of this has played out. We were already considering a move to Teams 
and Direct Routing and this has simply accelerate that move. I’m about to start 
a proof of concept Direct Routing project and looking at the practicalities of 
a phased migration of users with help from our SIP TSP.


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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-29 Thread Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions
Hi Lelio

 

I was told by a Cisco rep its all to do with Cisco’s arrogant sales strategy, 
trying to get all on-prem users to switchover to either Hybrid Jabber / Hybrid 
Webex or full cloud connection with Webex.

 

Unfortunately, it wasn’t communicated honestly and up front, my customer is 
very annoyed with Cisco and is slowly migrating towards MS Teams calling

 

I don’t see any “fixes” now, only the way we could solve it is following the 
procedure below

 

Gary

 

From: Lelio Fulgenzi  
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:18 AM
To: gba...@commandsolutions.com.au
Cc: Riley, Sean ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

 

They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.  

 

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it 
works.  

 

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues? 

 

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed. 

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
mailto:gba...@commandsolutions.com.au> > wrote:

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca 
<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca> 

 

Hi there

 

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

 

Fix we applied was as follows:

 

1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall 
old version)
2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below

 

msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

 

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

 

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles

Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"

$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"

$users | ForEach-Object {

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"

 

3.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.

 

HTH

 

Gary

 

From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> >
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.  

 

We’ve only had a few cases. 

 

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.  

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> > wrote:

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca 
<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca> 

 

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

 

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.  

 

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store? 

 

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:

 

1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via GPO.

 

Thanks.

 

 

From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> >; Gary Parker 
mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk> >; Brian V 
mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com> >
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some r

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi

They better come up with a better workaround to re-installing all our clients.

If Jabber has a built in procedure, then they really need to make sure it works.

Why are we all of a sudden seeing these cert issues?

This downloading of fixes really needs to be curbed.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions 
 wrote:



CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca

Hi there

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

Fix we applied was as follows:


  1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall old 
version)
  2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below


msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles
Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"
$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"
$users | ForEach-Object {
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"
Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"


  1.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.


HTH

Gary

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean 
mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com>> wrote:

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


  1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
  2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via GPO.

Thanks.


From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; Gary Parker 
mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian V 
mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason.

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian 
V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


-Original Message-
From: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
C

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-29 Thread Gary_Bates_Command_Solutions
Hi there

 

We experienced this issue with our on-prem Jabber updates,

 

Fix we applied was as follows:

 

1.  Do a “clean install” of Jabber (must delete cache files and uninstall 
old version)
2.  Wen installing new version,  use this installation file with the switch 
at the end  as below

 

msiexec.exe /i CiscoJabberSetup.msi CLEAR=1 EXCLUDED_SERVICES=WEBEX 
UPN_DISCOVERY_ENABLED=false

 

Our desktop team added a script to clear the cache folders on desktops with 
previous installations as follows:

 

## Deleting all “.\Cisco” folders found on local profiles

Write-Log "-> Deleting all `“.\Cisco`” folders found on local 
profiles"

$users = Get-ChildItem -Path "C:\Users"

$users | ForEach-Object {

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Local\Cisco"

Remove-Folder -Path "C:\Users\$($_.Name)\AppData\Roaming\Cisco"

 

3.  In the service profile for Jabber, add the 
“ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices --> WEBEX”

This will ensure once Jabber is installed and configured, it will no longer try 
to connect to WEBEX each time the user logins.

 

HTH

 

Gary

 

From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:24 AM
To: Riley, Sean 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.  

 

We’ve only had a few cases. 

 

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.  

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean mailto:sri...@robinsonbradshaw.com> > wrote:

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca 
<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca> 

 

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

 

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.  

 

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store? 

 

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:

 

1.  Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and services 
restarted on CUCM and IM
2.  Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via GPO.

 

Thanks.

 

 

From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> >; Gary Parker 
mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk> >; Brian V 
mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com> >
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

 

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason. 

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net> > On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk> >; 
Brian V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com> >
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net <mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


-Original Message-
From: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk> > 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com> >
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca> >; NateCCIE 
mailto:natec...@gmail.com> >; Johnson, Tim 
mailto:johns...@cmich.edu> >; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net 
<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net> 
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in 

Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-29 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
I will likely be opening a case for this. We had a few. Our workstations are 
not configured to not get root very updates I’ve been told.

We’ve only had a few cases.

Not sure this hasn’t made it to an advisory or bug or something.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Riley, Sean  wrote:



CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca

Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


1.   Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and 
services restarted on CUCM and IM

2.   Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via 
GPO.

Thanks.


From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; Gary Parker ; 
Brian V 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason.

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian 
V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


-Original Message-
From: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; NateCCIE 
mailto:natec...@gmail.com>>; Johnson, Tim 
mailto:johns...@cmich.edu>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>


Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the 
telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the 
servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” 
doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also 
mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem 
before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the 
IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a 
cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on 
Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V 
> mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They 
> reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they 
> reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-29 Thread Riley, Sean
Did anyone come up with a solution to this, other than to tell the users to 
Accept the Cert?

We are completely on prem with no webex services.  Clients are v 12.9.6.  I was 
able to reproduce the issue once using a test user account, but have not been 
able to reproduce since, even after a Jabber reset.  Most of my team is running 
Jabber v 14.x and we have not seen the cert warning.

Does a user declining the cert add it to the Untrusted Certificates store in 
Windows?  Maybe that takes priority over a cert in the trusted store?

I have done the following, but we still have sporadic reports of the 
certificate warning from Jabber:


1.   Ensured the new IdenTrust Commercial Root CA 1 was in CUCM and 
services restarted on CUCM and IM

2.   Added the HydrantID Server CA O1 to the computers trusted store via 
GPO.

Thanks.


From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Lelio 
Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 3:17 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; Gary Parker ; 
Brian V 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason.

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip 
mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net>> 
On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>; Brian 
V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


-Original Message-
From: Gary Parker mailto:g.j.par...@lboro.ac.uk>>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>>; NateCCIE 
mailto:natec...@gmail.com>>; Johnson, Tim 
mailto:johns...@cmich.edu>>; 
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to 
ith...@uoguelph.ca<mailto:ith...@uoguelph.ca>


Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the 
telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the 
servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” 
doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also 
mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem 
before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the 
IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a 
cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on 
Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V 
> mailto:bvanb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They 
> reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they 
> reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-12 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason. 

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


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Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker ; Brian V 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


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Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi ; NateCCIE ; Johnson, 
Tim ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

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Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the 
telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the 
servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” 
doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also 
mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem 
before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the 
IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a 
cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on 
Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V  wrote:
> 
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense.  They 
> reference adding some GoDaddy certs,  but when you look at the URL they 
> reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-12 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two 
very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work 
through that.


-Original Message-
From: Gary Parker  
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V 
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi ; NateCCIE ; Johnson, 
Tim ; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not 
click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the 
content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to ith...@uoguelph.ca


Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the 
telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the 
servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” 
doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also 
mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem 
before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the 
IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a 
cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on 
Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V  wrote:
> 
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense.  They 
> reference adding some GoDaddy certs,  but when you look at the URL they 
> reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-12 Thread Gary Parker
Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the 
telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the 
servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” 
doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also 
mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem 
before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the 
IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a 
cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on 
Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V  wrote:
> 
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense.  They 
> reference adding some GoDaddy certs,  but when you look at the URL they 
> reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-11 Thread Brian V
Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense.  They
reference adding some GoDaddy certs,  but when you look at the URL they
reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.
See images below
[image: image.png]

[image: image.png]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 3:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi  wrote:

> Ok. This all points to desktops not accepting root certificate updates
> from what I can tell.
>
> I just checked with my contact and ask about this on our site and he said
> there is no blocking of root certs being downloaded.
>
> I'm going to guess then that I'm ok.
>
> I mean, I haven't heard anything yet either, so that's a good sign.
>
> This can only get better when we move to 30 day certs, right?
>
> ACME for the WIN
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex
> Cert
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> https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203
>
> -Original Message-
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> Parker
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:45 PM
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> Cert
>
> Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this
> now, too.
>
> Gary
>
> > On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-11 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
Ok. This all points to desktops not accepting root certificate updates from 
what I can tell.

I just checked with my contact and ask about this on our site and he said there 
is no blocking of root certs being downloaded.

I'm going to guess then that I'm ok. 

I mean, I haven't heard anything yet either, so that's a good sign.

This can only get better when we move to 30 day certs, right?

ACME for the WIN

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To: 'Gary Parker' ; 'Johnson, Tim' 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

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https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203

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From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Gary Parker
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Johnson, Tim 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, 
too. 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-11 Thread NateCCIE
https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203

-Original Message-
From: cisco-voip  On Behalf Of Gary Parker
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Johnson, Tim 
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, 
too. 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-11 Thread Gary Parker
Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, 
too. 

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

2021-11-11 Thread Gary Parker
Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!

I’m loathe to advise users to accept a certificate that’s flagged as bad for 
some reason, as that’s just bad security practice.

As I mentioned earlier, I’ve added:

WEBEX

...to our jabber-config.xml, and we’re advising users to reset their Jabber 
client to apply it, but that’s bound to upset a few who’ll lose their chat 
history and contacts.

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 15:30, Johnson, Tim  wrote:
> 
> I’ve heard from my help desk that they had a few users report the prompt for 
> accepting a cert. Unfortunately, they gathered zero details for me and just 
> had the users accept the cert…
>  
> Good to know it’s not just us though. 

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