Martina:
It seems to me a very sad thing that an entire nations folk song repetoire is
in danger of being lost due to the associations it carries.
Perhaps in another genertion or two the associations will hav become much
more distant and someone will discover them. However,the
for the clarification - I had understood the evolution to have gone
the other direction (evolving from other northern european bowed lyres). It is
quite a tangle, isn't it?
Best regards,
David
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Brad McEwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi:
it si my
Doc:
Well, all I can say for myself is that my sightreading abilities are
extremely bad.I can't read from the page if someone puts it in front of me
and asks me to do so. I generally get a tune in my head, use the dots to
translate it (not that good at learning by ear, either!) and
Martina:
Received.
Brad
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hi,
yesterday two mails did not get through to Cittern Net. so this is just a test,
if I can get trough at all...
Martina Rosenberger
www.etcetra.eu
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I still think that an 18th C Mandola would be the ticket. I don't know if
anyone makes them, but there are a lot of roundback short scale Italian made
Mandocellos that are pretty close. The french piper Jean Pierre Rasle living
in the UK used to have one in his ceilidh group, the Cock Bull
Doc:
Is it meant to be historically accurate? If not, what about a Mandobass or
Mandocello?
Brad
Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on a project involving mid-18th-century dance music mostly
from France, Belgium and Austria. I'd like to have a non-keyboard
plucked
Frank:
Intersting. thesmaller instrument next to it looks like a Guittarr
Allemande, but it appears to have a fixed bridge and a more modern stylke
headstock. Same basic body shape,though.
Brad
Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doc Rossi wrote:
I'm working on a project
] wrote:
Brad McEwen wrote:
thesmaller instrument next to it looks like a Guittarr
Allemande, but it appears to have a fixed bridge and a more
modern stylke headstock. Same basic body shape,though.
I hadn't noticed that. In fact I don't think anybody had noticed the
similarity before you did
Doc:
Very nice. I take it that the frist and third tunes are from your new CD?.
The second one was from your first .Which instrument was the first tune played
on? The Ceconni?
Brad
Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's still quite simple, but I have a page on My Space which
Hi:
Wow. I just received this email today. Today being Janurary 20th! Even the
Post Offices don't take this long to send a message!
Brad
Christopher Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello all,
can anyone advise me regarding best choice for the lower courses strings for a
bandora
Martina:
What about a better pic of the Bohm tuners?
Brad
Martina Rosenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
now they can be seen
http://www.cetrapublishing.com/citterncafe/
Martina
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Andrew:
I guess mine don't.
The late 19th C Portuguese guitarra is intersting, as wel.. It looks like a
failry small body, closer to the EGs.
Brad
Andrew Hartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry -- I didn't notice since both my browser and anti-virus
programs block pop-ups...
instruments when we can actually see what they are
'in the flesh'.
Kevin.
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Brad McEwen wrote: Isn;t it in Lisbon? whee all those Fado tavernas are? Or
maybe in Marseiile, in Doc's sitting room? Let's all go visit him, bring
.
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Brad McEwen wrote: Isn;t it in Lisbon? whee all those Fado tavernas are? Or
maybe in Marseiile, in Doc's sitting room? Let's all go visit him, bring
citterns,drink all his booze nd argue about what to call these things that we
play!
Brad
Rob wrote:
And where
Doc:
Are you referring to the cetrapublishing site?
Brad
Gregory Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Group,
I'm working on getting one of my sites set up so that we can post
photos and music. It won't be much longer. Anyone interested in
putting graphics and PDFs online would
Andrew:
Now, who makes capoes for THOSE?
brad
Andrew Hartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
I thought I would share with you that I have updated my page on the
Palmer orpharion with photos kindly supplied by the National Music
Museum of Denmark. Please check it out:
Frank:
yes, yes, yes.. Tht's that very famous cittern made for some continental
Duke,, Vicchi, isn't it? Damn, I can't recall the particulars. I'm sure soemone
will recall soon enough.
Very famous.
Brad
Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if anybody here
Andrew:
That's it!
Brad
Andrew Hartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm mostly certain that it is the Girolamo Virchi
instrument in the Kunsthistorisches Museum.
http://cittern.theaterofmusic.com/old/ferd.html
The Strad I believe is almost certainly also
originally by Virchi. For
Hi:
A theatrical prop used for a 19th C. Shakespearian play perhap?
brad
Peter Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 25/8/07 8:58 pm, Frank Nordberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hoping people will forgive me for straying slightly off topic for this
list, does anybody here have any
Hi:
What's the tuning and scale lenght of this thing?
Brad
Peter Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 19/8/07 6:58 pm, Frank Nordberg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know some of you are on the frettedfriends maillist too and have
already seen this question but does anybody here
Hi:
tht ebony strip definitely does NOT look origianl. The model that I saw in
the Horniman museum is almost identical to this one, the main difference being
the fact that the Horniman modelhas friction pegs. The strips along the
outside fo the fingerboard are pearl or ebony.
brad
Hi:
Gavin Davenport sent me a link to eBay where there was a Paul hathway
Renaissance cittern for sale. bidding has now ended on that one, but there is
an EG for sale there. It says mid 18th C English Guittar by james Earp.
However, it has a Portugues style headstock and fan tuners.
Hi:
Ugly looking body shape, in my opinion.
Brad
Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 29, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote:
it's definitely one of these things:
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/ZISTER/0632.htm
Not only is it one of these things, but this is
James:
I don't think my chiropractor would approve!
Brad
James A Stimson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear All:
One of the most interesting aspects of the Steen painting is the very
realistic sitting position of the cittern player. He's propping up the
instrument on his left leg,
Stuat:
Well, how can anyone look troubled holding onto what is obviously a very nice
cittern?
Brad
Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doc Rossi wrote:
http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/wright/WRJ007.html
original in the St. Louis Art Museum
A good find! The instrument
Rob:
I wish I could have been there. I love your CD of Oswald. Yes,more people
should play the instrument. It's on my to do list.
Brad
Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I played my concert for the English Music Festival, in a small church in
a small village called Sutton Courteney,
Hi:
ah,yes. Therein lies the crux of the problem. Is it a cittern because it
looks like one or is it a mandola because it's tuned like one?
I like Doc's idea of citterns not being any one instrument bur rather a braod
family. Mayb even the criteria should in fact be vague.
Doc:
I agree, persoanlly. The easies tthing to do is to consider all of these
instruments (Renaissance, EG, PG, and other variants) as citterns.
Some would consider the instruments that I play (modern Celtic citterns) as
10 string mandolas. I prefer the name cittern, myself.
Doc:
Very interesting. I wondered what had ahppened to you.
For my own part, I am not disputing Pedro; I'm very interested in this.
AND, I'm certainly not trying to defend the notion of the British style
guittar being the sole influence on the Portuguese.
I think it very
Hi:
yes, the useless discussion surprises me as well.
Brad
Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martina Rosenberger wrote:
Dear all,
Eventually I could reach Pedro to speak for himself:
Dear Martina,
Thank you so much for your mails.
I have been too busy lately to reply or
Sorry:
to clarify:
Pedro's use of the phrase useless discussion surprises me as well.
Brad
Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martina Rosenberger wrote:
Dear all,
Eventually I could reach Pedro to speak for himself:
Dear Martina,
Thank you so much for your mails.
I
Steve:
In thepast, I have read that the reson the Spanish preferred the vihuela is
because it was a differnt shape from the lute, which for them had Arab
associatioinsThe opposite of your suggestion.. Although, that theory may not
hold water as there were double waisted Arab instrument
Ron:
interesting. Very pretty. Its small body makes it look very similar to an
Englsih guittar.
Brad
ron fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
I have posted photos on my website of a small Portuguese guitarra I own
(circa 1890) made in Lisbon by João Miguel Andrade and
Manuscript.
brad
KEVIN LAWTON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MS ? ? ?
HWat is 'MS' ?
--- Andrew Hartig
wrote:
There are actually a few (tentative) references
to the cittern in Iberia on my site, though they may
have been overlooked.
First, there is one MS (little known) of Mexican
Rob:
wish I could be there, but I'm back in Canada.
Brad
Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I, of course, meant the English Guitar...
And talking of which, I am to give my only concert this year at the
English Music Festival (of all places!) near Oxford in a couple of weeks
time
Doc:
Itr sounds like playing and stringing the cetra is even more difficult than
the Portuguese guittarra!
I have a friend in England who has made a couple of cetras (he calls them
English guittars, of course) for himself from an unplayable original. I think
his must have been an
Rob:
I agree about how it should be played more often. Your CD of Oswalds music
gets on my player quite frequently. So does Doc's. Should you record more
onto Cd, I'd be first in line to purchase a copy.
I'd like to get one of these instruments (let's get a name we all agree on,
-read
what I said.
Rob
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Rob
You state in the site that there were not British
Rob
You state in the site that there were not British publications of guittar
music in the 18th C. However, what do you mean by British? Oswald and Brmener
were British, were they not? Do you not mean that there were no ENGLISH
publciations (to be precise)?
Brad
Rob MacKillop
Hi:
does anyone know if it is possible to obtain a reproduction of a brass rose
for an 18th C. cittern (guittar)?
Brad
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Hi:
A friend of mine is looking for information on how to obtain and tie on gut
frets. Can anyone here help?
Brad
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Hi:
Oh, dear. I wish I spoke something more than just English.
Brad
Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stuart Walsh wrote:
But in the link you give below - the Studia Instrumentorium - under
'zithern' there are illustratons of zithern that aren't citterns and
they're from before the
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