Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Paul Kosinski
I don't know if flushing the daily.cvd cache would be adequate, since there are probably some downstream caches that wouldn't follow suit. Pointing *everyone* directly at Cloudflare might be expensive, if that meant millions (or even thousands) of new clients. How does Cloudflare charge Talos

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Dennis Peterson
Ignoring latency which is probably no where near the problem it was with the volunteer network of mirrors. dp On 12/15/18 2:43 PM, Alain Zidouemba wrote: When a new cdiff is released, is a new daily.cvd also released at the same time? Yes. -Alain On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:26 PM, J.R. wrote:

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Alain Zidouemba
> When a new cdiff is released, is a new daily.cvd also released at the same time? Yes. -Alain > On Dec 15, 2018, at 4:26 PM, J.R. wrote: > > When a new > cdiff is released, is a new daily.cvd also released at the same time? ___ clamav-users mailing

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread J.R.
First question hopefully someone from ClamAV can answer... When a new cdiff is released, is a new daily.cvd also released at the same time? I would assume so, but best to get this question answered clearly than continue to speculate. Second, I don't think doing a manual flush of the cached file

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Dennis Peterson
This raises another point which is and has been the DNS version does not and has not meant there was an update to the daily CVD file - just that the cdiffs exist to update the users' local copy of the CLD to the current version using a reliable and efficient signed process. This only ever

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Joel Esler (jesler)
When Sourcefire acquired ClamAV "back in the day", we stopped accepting donations, as accounting for them on a corporate revenue side is more of a hassle than it is worth, so we just support it out of pocket. That being said, this thread is long and I wanted to reply to is. What if I flushed

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Dennis Peterson
Things have changed a lot since Thomasz and Lucia were bearing the brunt of support, but other things change slowly. https://lists.gt.net/clamav/users/115 dp On 12/15/18 10:32 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 15 December 2018 10:58:12 Micah Snyder (micasnyd) wrote: I was actually

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Paul Kosinski
Indeed, Scripted Update via cdiffs is far more efficient until one has *lots* of machines running ClamAV on one's LAN. This tradeoff should be (and have been) documented. Better yet, the current Local Mirror mechanism should be either fixed to support cld files (if it doesn't already) or removed

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 December 2018 10:58:12 Micah Snyder (micasnyd) wrote: > I was actually wondering about this part too. You would need quite a > few machines downstream of your local mirror to make up the difference > switching from cdiffs for each machine to CVD's, at least given the > current

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Paul Kosinski
Automated configuration management sounds interesting, but we have only a few machines running ClamAV, rather than a couple hundred, so I doubt the effort would pay off. We could, I suppose, have a "master" ClamAV do the Scripted Update and then distribute updated clds to the other ClamAVs (using

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Paul Kosinski
Our Comcast account in in MA and is not a business account (which I presume would cost more). My view is that Comcast tech support is on the level of "try restarting your modem" or "try restarting Windows", so I doubt asking about transparent caching would get very far. I don't think it's

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread Micah Snyder (micasnyd)
I was actually wondering about this part too. You would need quite a few machines downstream of your local mirror to make up the difference switching from cdiffs for each machine to CVD's, at least given the current size of daily.cvd. It probably is about time for us to fold daily into main,

Re: [clamav-users] No good deed goes unpunished, or, why CVD files don't work

2018-12-15 Thread J.R.
I seem to recall you said you had comcast, and I'm assuming it is a business account. Have you tried calling their business support and talked to someone that is actually local to explain your problem and see if they possibly have a transparent cache in place and if it would be possible to exclude