[Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in almost two years running freshclam as a daemon on two - not

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Lars Stavholm
G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in almost two years running freshclam as

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Brian Morrison
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:31:29 + (GMT) G.W. Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naturally if freshclam dies we can expect people to mention it. I'm calling for those who run freshclam as a daemon and who don't see any problems with it to chip into this thread. How many of us are there? I run

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 12:31 +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Naturally if freshclam dies we can expect people to mention

RE: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon

2006-12-29 Thread Barry Gill
Naturally if freshclam dies we can expect people to mention it. I'm calling for those who run freshclam as a daemon and who don't see any problems with it to chip into this thread. How many of us are there? I run freshclam in daemon mode for several servers processing several hundred

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread George R . Kasica
Two Linux boxes here, one Generic (used to be Caldera 2.2) and one Fedora Core 5 been running it on both for close to 18 monthsnot one failure that I'm aware of. Both boxes are fairly busy as well, the caldera is an email/list/web box and the FC5 is a weather map server/forecasting tools

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in almost two years running freshclam as a

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote: G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in almost two years

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Maurice Lucas
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 12:31 +, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, Some time ago somebody wrote, and somebody else replied: Why not just run freshclam as a daemon? Then you really need to have a daemon watcher to keep it going. Talk of freshclam dying gives me some discomfort, yet in

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Jim Maul wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: This is not rocket science. Who said it was? The OP clearly asked for people who run freshclam as a daemon who have NOT had problems with it in the setup. You are not one of those people so im still trying to figure out why you felt the need to

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Jim Maul
Dennis Peterson wrote: Jim Maul wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: This is not rocket science. Who said it was? The OP clearly asked for people who run freshclam as a daemon who have NOT had problems with it in the setup. You are not one of those people so im still trying to figure out

[Clamav-users] Large extremely compressed text files and clamd / amavis-new

2006-12-29 Thread Mark Hennessy
I have a user that is sending themselves e-mails containing attachments of web server logs on the last few days of each month that appear to be very well compressed. When this happens, clamd seems to overheat. 88457 root 59 0 319M 207M RUN 8:28 90.82% 90.82% clamd Notice the

Re: [Clamav-users] Large extremely compressed text files and clamd / amavis-new

2006-12-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Mark Hennessy wrote: I have a user that is sending themselves e-mails containing attachments of web server logs on the last few days of each month that appear to be very well compressed. When this happens, clamd seems to overheat. 88457 root 59 0 319M 207M RUN 8:28 90.82%

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon

2006-12-29 Thread Per Jessen
G.W. Haywood wrote: I'm calling for those who run freshclam as a daemon and who don't see any problems with it to chip into this thread. How many of us are there? We're running freshclam as a daemon - probably for about 2 years, I'm not sure. AFAIK, we have not seen any stability problems,

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread Per Jessen
Dennis Peterson wrote: [60 lines snipped] I can only tell you from my experience with several years and many versions of ClamAV that I have found no advantage in any category to running freshclam as a daemon, and running it in cron gives me many options not otherwise available - not the

Re: [Clamav-users] DB Update email before actual update available?

2006-12-29 Thread Per Jessen
Dennis Peterson wrote: At some point you've got to trust someone/something. Who watches your daemon watcher? Who watches your OS? Who watches your power-supply? I run SPARC equipment - I have monitoring for all that and cpu temperature, too. There's a difference between proper monitoring

[Clamav-users] Re: DB Update email before actual update available?

2006-12-29 Thread Dave Warren
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: At some point you've got to trust someone/something. Who watches your daemon watcher? Who watches your OS? Who watches your power-supply? I run SPARC equipment - I have monitoring for all that and cpu

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update

2006-12-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Dennis Peterson wrote: [60 lines snipped] I can only tell you from my experience with several years and many versions of ClamAV that I have found no advantage in any category to running freshclam as a daemon, and running it in cron gives me many options not otherwise available -

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update email before actual update available?]

2006-12-29 Thread John Rudd
Per Jessen wrote: Dennis Peterson wrote: And as an old school Unix admin who still believes in the mentoring responsibility of my position, I will make recommendations from time to time regarding best practices and I recommend if you run freshclam as a daemon that you monitor it and restart

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: DB Update email before actual update available?

2006-12-29 Thread Per Jessen
Dave Warren wrote: We run Intel equipment (mostly) and monitor all that too. Still, it sounds like you've decided to trust your daemon-watcher daemon? We do not use daemon-watchers simply because it's impossible to tell when to stop. If you trust your watcher, you might as well trust the

Re: [Clamav-users] DB Update email before actual update available?

2006-12-29 Thread Stephen Gran
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 09:16:03PM +0100, Per Jessen said: Dennis Peterson wrote: but I can guarantee freshclam can fail regularly (and has) when run as a daemon. Now that is WORRYING. Are the clamav developers listening in here? I can't verify Dennis' statement myself, but if

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update

2006-12-29 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Fri, December 29, 2006 3:54 pm, Dennis Peterson said: This thread has become fractious (I claim some responsibility) and unhelpful to the project. Fortunately ClamAV supports all our methods and we can apply our own disciplines to the problems we each see and that's a good thing. Just

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon [was: DB Update

2006-12-29 Thread Per Jessen
Daniel T. Staal wrote: Has anyone tried both? What happens if you try to run freshclam as a daemon and from cron? (Assuming you schedule them to run at different times, of course. If they both checked at the same time I would expect something to bork.) If they both ran at the same time,

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: DB Update email before actual update available?

2006-12-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Dave Warren wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] There is no reason that monitors can't monitor other monitors too, in the software world. Sure. But there's a setup cost in terms of admin time, and at least some resources being spent regardless of

RE: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon

2006-12-29 Thread Barry Gill
On the subject of Cron, When I was still running Fedora Core 3, I was running my freshclam's using cron but found from time to time that when I came in to work in the morning I would have 20 to 30 cron processes still holding on chewing up resource but not finishing off anything. This caused me

Re: [Clamav-users] Freshclam stability as a daemon

2006-12-29 Thread Dennis Peterson
Barry Gill wrote: On the subject of Cron, When I was still running Fedora Core 3, I was running my freshclam's using cron but found from time to time that when I came in to work in the morning I would have 20 to 30 cron processes still holding on chewing up resource but not finishing off