Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 02/13/2013 07:36 AM, Joel Esler wrote:

Apple doesn't block everything but what they have tested. What does that mean?



On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Jim Preston wrote:

Basically it means that you have get your applications from the App
Store and all programs have to be approved by Apple to be sold in the store.



On 02/13/2013 08:05 AM, Joel Esler wrote:

To be sold in the store, sure.  But your apps don't have to be sold in the 
store.


On 13.02.13 14:59, Jim Preston wrote:
Unless I am mistaken, that is the point of this thread. The fact that 
if you want non-apple approved applications, you need to jailbreak 
the phone and hence should Envais0n be considered malware since it 
exploits IOS flaws to allow jailbreaking.


No, it is not a malware. It is a jailbreak. It does not to any bad (at least
from user's point of view, even if Apple is happy it has partial control
over devices it sold to customers), it just makes possible installation of
any software not approved by apple that does not necessarily have to be a
malware.

Thus, I don't really see why this should be considered a malware.

I personally do not own an iPhone but was an IT person in a 
company that supplied iPhones to select employees and therefore was 
involved in ordering and setting them up. This bit is just to explain 
my familiarity (or lack there of depending on your viewpoint) with 
iPhones


Well, if you wast prevent your users from using unathorized software, you
of course can put that into their contracts and optionally make your own
Envais0n signature on company's servers.

But you should not do this in public clamav database, since there are users
who legally want to jailbreak their phones and install software as they
want, not as apple wants. And since their BOUGHT their iphones, they have
right to do so.

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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Daniel McDonald
On 2/14/13 2:18 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:
 
 On 13.02.13 14:59, Jim Preston wrote:
 Unless I am mistaken, that is the point of this thread. The fact that
 if you want non-apple approved applications, you need to jailbreak
 the phone and hence should Envais0n be considered malware since it
 exploits IOS flaws to allow jailbreaking.
 
 No, it is not a malware. It is a jailbreak. It does not to any bad (at least
 from user's point of view, even if Apple is happy it has partial control
 over devices it sold to customers), it just makes possible installation of
 any software not approved by apple that does not necessarily have to be a
 malware.

Fine, so it is a PUA - Potentially Unwanted Application.  And the clamav
team could create a new PUA category for it.

Or the people who want the jailbreak software could list the signature in
local.ign2 or whatever the ignore file is, and be happy.

But for the majority of us, It's not just potentially unwanted, it is simply
unwanted.  If I had wanted an open phone, I would have bought an Android.


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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Joel Esler
More info on the Jailbreak. Good read:

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/02/from-usr-to-svc-dissecting-evasi0n.html 

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On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Daniel McDonald wrote:

 On 2/14/13 2:18 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk 
 (mailto:uh...@fantomas.sk) wrote:
  
  On 13.02.13 14:59, Jim Preston wrote:
   Unless I am mistaken, that is the point of this thread. The fact that
   if you want non-apple approved applications, you need to jailbreak
   the phone and hence should Envais0n be considered malware since it
   exploits IOS flaws to allow jailbreaking.
   
  
  
  No, it is not a malware. It is a jailbreak. It does not to any bad (at least
  from user's point of view, even if Apple is happy it has partial control
  over devices it sold to customers), it just makes possible installation of
  any software not approved by apple that does not necessarily have to be a
  malware.
  
 
 
 Fine, so it is a PUA - Potentially Unwanted Application. And the clamav
 team could create a new PUA category for it.
 
 Or the people who want the jailbreak software could list the signature in
 local.ign2 or whatever the ignore file is, and be happy.
 
 But for the majority of us, It's not just potentially unwanted, it is simply
 unwanted. If I had wanted an open phone, I would have bought an Android.
 
 
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[clamav-users] daily-16682.cdiff not found on remote server

2013-02-14 Thread Matthias Egger

Hello

Since about two hours we get the following Errors while updating with 
freshclam:


ClamAV update process started at Thu Feb 14 16:51:42 2013
main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60, 
builder: sven)

WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
WARNING: Incremental update failed, trying to download daily.cvd
WARNING: Can't download daily.cvd from db.de.clamav.net
Trying again in 5 secs...

I also tried to connect to db.ch.clamav.net and db.us.clamav.net the 
response ist mostly the same. The difference is, that the US servers 
also spit out something like:


WARNING: getfile: daily-16682.cdiff not found on remote server (IP: 
168.143.19.95)


Is there a missing file on the mirrors?

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Re: [clamav-users] daily-16682.cdiff not found on remote server

2013-02-14 Thread Shawn Webb
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Matthias Egger maeg...@ee.ethz.ch wrote:

 Hello

 Since about two hours we get the following Errors while updating with
 freshclam:

 ClamAV update process started at Thu Feb 14 16:51:42 2013
 main.cvd is up to date (version: 54, sigs: 1044387, f-level: 60, builder:
 sven)
 WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
 WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
 WARNING: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.de.clamav.net
 WARNING: Incremental update failed, trying to download daily.cvd
 WARNING: Can't download daily.cvd from db.de.clamav.net
 Trying again in 5 secs...

 I also tried to connect to db.ch.clamav.net and db.us.clamav.net the
 response ist mostly the same. The difference is, that the US servers also
 spit out something like:

 WARNING: getfile: daily-16682.cdiff not found on remote server (IP:
 168.143.19.95)

 Is there a missing file on the mirrors?


In preparation for the 0.98 release, we needed to push out a new database
file. We couldn't do this by pushing a cdiff out, so the 16682 daily.cvd
update does not have a corresponding cdiff. Clients will be downloading the
full daily.cvd for 16682.

In short: there is no cdiff for the 16682 daily.cvd update.
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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Benny Pedersen

Daniel McDonald skrev den 14-02-2013 14:17:

But for the majority of us, It's not just potentially unwanted, it is 
simply
unwanted.  If I had wanted an open phone, I would have bought an 
Android.


if you did you would know that its not more open then an iphone, but it 
have a setting to let users install anything that is not downloaded from 
google.play


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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 13.02.13 14:59, Jim Preston wrote:

Unless I am mistaken, that is the point of this thread. The fact that
if you want non-apple approved applications, you need to jailbreak
the phone and hence should Envais0n be considered malware since it
exploits IOS flaws to allow jailbreaking.



On 2/14/13 2:18 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:

No, it is not a malware. It is a jailbreak. It does not to any bad (at least
from user's point of view, even if Apple is happy it has partial control
over devices it sold to customers), it just makes possible installation of
any software not approved by apple that does not necessarily have to be a
malware.


On 14.02.13 07:17, Daniel McDonald wrote:

Fine, so it is a PUA - Potentially Unwanted Application.  And the clamav
team could create a new PUA category for it.


Luckily this category already exists :-)


Or the people who want the jailbreak software could list the signature in
local.ign2 or whatever the ignore file is, and be happy.

But for the majority of us, It's not just potentially unwanted, it is simply
unwanted.  If I had wanted an open phone, I would have bought an Android.


:-)

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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 14.02.13 10:57, Joel Esler wrote:

More info on the Jailbreak. Good read:

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/02/from-usr-to-svc-dissecting-evasi0n.html


And what do you think about the PUA/malware clasification of it?

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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Joel Esler
I'll defer that decision to Alain, or the person that wrote the detection.

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On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

 On 14.02.13 10:57, Joel Esler wrote:
  More info on the Jailbreak. Good read:
  
  http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/02/from-usr-to-svc-dissecting-evasi0n.html
 
 And what do you think about the PUA/malware clasification of it?
 
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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Shawn Webb
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:

 Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors reported
 when running freshclam:

 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from database.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

 Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

 A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue with
 the EU mirror.

 Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can provide
 you with any additional debug info, etc.

 Clay


In preparation for the 0.98 release, we needed to push out a new database
file. We couldn't do this by pushing a cdiff out, so the 16682 daily.cvd
update does not have a corresponding cdiff. Clients will be downloading the
full daily.cvd for 16682.

In short: there is no cdiff for the 16682 daily.cvd update.
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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Clayton Keller

On 02/14/2013 10:31 AM, Shawn Webb wrote:

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:


Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors reported
when running freshclam:

ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.us.clamav.net
ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from database.clamav.net
ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue with
the EU mirror.

Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can provide
you with any additional debug info, etc.

Clay



In preparation for the 0.98 release, we needed to push out a new database
file. We couldn't do this by pushing a cdiff out, so the 16682 daily.cvd
update does not have a corresponding cdiff. Clients will be downloading the
full daily.cvd for 16682.

In short: there is no cdiff for the 16682 daily.cvd update.


Thank you for the reply Shawn.

It looks like a removal of the .cvd file and a fresh download will solve 
the issue. Is that the recommended means to get the new update?




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Re: [clamav-users] Does Filesize(HDB) or PESectionSize(MDB) of executables play any role in virus pattern matching?

2013-02-14 Thread Alain Zidouemba
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Kaushik Vaidyanathan 
kvaid...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote:

 Hi

 Do the FileSize field in a HDB signature serve any purpose during pattern
 matching, or pattern matching relies only on the MD5 checksum?


File size serves the purpose of making sure we are looking at the right
file.


 Similarly for the MDB signature whats the role of PESectionSize in pattern
 matching? Does PESectionSize get used while filtering and/or preprocessing
 during the pattern matching?


Same as above.


 I have read through the signatures document and could not figure this out?
 Do you have to step through the code to understand this?

 Unfortunately, there is no such documentation at this time. The code is
your friend :-)

Is there notes/document which specifies the different types of
 filtering(AC, Wu-Manber, Bloom Filters) and preprocessing ClamAV does on
 the input file before proceeding to the exact match? If not any suggestions
 on how I could figure this out quickly from the source code?

 If this question is not suitable for this list, where should I post this
 question?

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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Dan Schwartz
I had a similar problem.  I found if I removed the old main.cld and
daily.cvd, and then ran freshclam, it re-downloaded everything and seems to
be working fine.  My main.cld was from 2011 (pretty old).

Dan


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:

 Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors reported
 when running freshclam:

 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from database.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

 Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

 A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue with
 the EU mirror.

 Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can provide
 you with any additional debug info, etc.

 Clay



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Re: [clamav-users] False Positive - Osx.Exploit.Iosjailbreak

2013-02-14 Thread Joel Esler
In any case.  This signature was dropped a couple days ago, and beyond that, 
users can ignore it on their end.  

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On Thursday, February 14, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Daniel McDonald wrote:

 On 2/14/13 10:13 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:
 
On 13.02.13 14:59, Jim Preston wrote:
 Unless I am mistaken, that is the point of this thread. The fact that
 if you want non-apple approved applications, you need to jailbreak
 the phone and hence should Envais0n be considered malware since it
 exploits IOS flaws to allow jailbreaking.
 


   
  
  
   On 2/14/13 2:18 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:
No, it is not a malware. It is a jailbreak. It does not to any bad (at 
least
from user's point of view, even if Apple is happy it has partial control
over devices it sold to customers), it just makes possible installation 
of
any software not approved by apple that does not necessarily have to be 
a
malware.

   
   
  
  
  On 14.02.13 07:17, Daniel McDonald wrote:
   Fine, so it is a PUA - Potentially Unwanted Application. And the clamav
   team could create a new PUA category for it.
   
  
  
  Luckily this category already exists :-)
 
 I don't see a category that adequately describes jailbreak software. PwTool
 is the closest, but still misses the mark in my opinion.
 
 http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/faq/pua/
 
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Re: [clamav-users] Does Filesize(HDB) or PESectionSize(MDB) of executables play any role in virus pattern matching?

2013-02-14 Thread Kaushik Vaidyanathan
Hi Alain

Thanks Alain.

Is the FileSize or PESectionSize used as a pre-processing(or filtering)
step while scanning files?

What I mean is does ClamAV use the size of the file to filter out all virus
patterns that dont have the same filesize as that of the file under
inspection? After finding a subset of virus patterns(using the FileSize
field in HDB) that do match the size of the file does it then proceed to
actual signature matching using WM or AC string matching algorithms?

Is the same true with PESectionSize for a MDB file? Just that it would
probably get PESectionSize information in the Header/SectionTable fields of
the PE file under inspection?

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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Ryan Goode
Is that the only solution? We have to hit a ton of servers as none of our 
servers using clam have been able to update for a few hours.

-Original Message-
From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
[mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Dan Schwartz
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:30 AM
To: ClamAV users ML
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

I had a similar problem.  I found if I removed the old main.cld and daily.cvd, 
and then ran freshclam, it re-downloaded everything and seems to be working 
fine.  My main.cld was from 2011 (pretty old).

Dan


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:

 Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors 
 reported when running freshclam:

 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 database.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

 Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

 A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue 
 with the EU mirror.

 Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can 
 provide you with any additional debug info, etc.

 Clay



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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Daniel McDonald



On 2/14/13 12:59 PM, Ryan Goode rgo...@vereduscorp.com wrote:

 Is that the only solution? We have to hit a ton of servers as none of our
 servers using clam have been able to update for a few hours.

I'm seeing success with daily version 16683
 
 -Original Message-
 From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net
 [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Dan Schwartz
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:30 AM
 To: ClamAV users ML
 Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues
 
 I had a similar problem.  I found if I removed the old main.cld and daily.cvd,
 and then ran freshclam, it re-downloaded everything and seems to be working
 fine.  My main.cld was from 2011 (pretty old).


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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Noel Jones
Two choices:

- wait.  It will eventually sort itself out.
- remove mirrors.dat and run freshclam manually.  Might have to do
this more than once.




 -- Noel Jones



On 2/14/2013 12:59 PM, Ryan Goode wrote:
 Is that the only solution? We have to hit a ton of servers as none of our 
 servers using clam have been able to update for a few hours.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
 [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Dan Schwartz
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:30 AM
 To: ClamAV users ML
 Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues
 
 I had a similar problem.  I found if I removed the old main.cld and 
 daily.cvd, and then ran freshclam, it re-downloaded everything and seems to 
 be working fine.  My main.cld was from 2011 (pretty old).
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller 
 inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:
 
 Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors 
 reported when running freshclam:

 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 database.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

 Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

 A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue 
 with the EU mirror.

 Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can 
 provide you with any additional debug info, etc.

 Clay



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Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

2013-02-14 Thread Ryan Goode
A few minutes ago it all started working again. Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
[mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Noel Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:52 PM
To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues

Two choices:

- wait.  It will eventually sort itself out.
- remove mirrors.dat and run freshclam manually.  Might have to do this more 
than once.




 -- Noel Jones



On 2/14/2013 12:59 PM, Ryan Goode wrote:
 Is that the only solution? We have to hit a ton of servers as none of our 
 servers using clam have been able to update for a few hours.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net 
 [mailto:clamav-users-boun...@lists.clamav.net] On Behalf Of Dan 
 Schwartz
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:30 AM
 To: ClamAV users ML
 Subject: Re: [clamav-users] Database Mirror Issues
 
 I had a similar problem.  I found if I removed the old main.cld and 
 daily.cvd, and then ran freshclam, it re-downloaded everything and seems to 
 be working fine.  My main.cld was from 2011 (pretty old).
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Clayton Keller 
 inetad...@ruraltel.netwrote:
 
 Within the past hour we have started seeing the following errors 
 reported when running freshclam:

 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.us.clamav.net
 ERROR: getpatch: Can't download daily-16682.cdiff from 
 database.clamav.net
 ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from database.clamav.net

 Our last successful download was at 07:39:52 CST.

 A colleague has indicated to me that they are seeing a similar issue 
 with the EU mirror.

 Any assistance would be appreciated. Please let me know if we can 
 provide you with any additional debug info, etc.

 Clay



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