Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-30 Thread Kris Deugau

Tilman Schmidt wrote:

Am 29.10.18 um 17:33 schrieb Kris Deugau:

Tilman Schmidt wrote:

Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:

For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
*.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.


Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
*.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous
examination.


In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.


The "*m" ones (with macros) certainly aren't, but the "*x" ones (without
macros) have so far never caused any trouble at our site.
So we put mails with *.doc, *.xls, *.docm and *.xlsm attachments in
quarantine, only releasing them upon request after manual inspection,
but let *.docx and *.xlsx pass if the ClamAV scan turns up clean.


I don't care enough to dig up what the formal spec (such as may exist) 
for these files is, but I see a regular trickle of .docx and a handful 
of .xlsx files that pop up a warning in OpenOffice about macros.  I 
don't think I've seen any .docm or .xlsm for a while.


Personally I'd be quite happy to ban them all outright, but customers 
get a little grouchy when they can't send or receive documents to their 
contacts...


We scan them all, quarantine the ones that hit a signature, add local 
signatures as malicious examples get reported, use a handful of 
third-party signatures, and advise customers to make sure they keep an 
up-to-date antivirus package on their system - if only to make sure 
they're also protected against non-email malware.


-kgd
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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-30 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 29.10.18 um 17:33 schrieb Kris Deugau:
> Tilman Schmidt wrote:
>> Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:
>>> For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
>>> *.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.
>>
>> Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
>> *.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
>> You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous
>> examination.
> 
> In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.

The "*m" ones (with macros) certainly aren't, but the "*x" ones (without
macros) have so far never caused any trouble at our site.
So we put mails with *.doc, *.xls, *.docm and *.xlsm attachments in
quarantine, only releasing them upon request after manual inspection,
but let *.docx and *.xlsx pass if the ClamAV scan turns up clean.

T.
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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Al Varnell
I have been seeing malware a .doc "resumé" delivered by e-mail to the ClamXAV 
help desk several times a week recently.

-Al-

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Jerry wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:33:19 -0400, Kris Deugau stated:
> 
>> Tilman Schmidt wrote:
>>> Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:  
 For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
 *.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.  
>>> 
>>> Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
>>> *.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
>>> You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous
>>> examination.  
>> 
>> In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.
> 
> We have a a steady flow of "*.doc", "*.docx" "*.xlsx" and *.pdf" files
> exchanged with other offices. I have not seen a virus in any of them since
> 2010. Seems like you might be doing business with the wrong type of people.


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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Kris Deugau

Jerry wrote:

We have a a steady flow of "*.doc", "*.docx" "*.xlsx" and *.pdf" files
exchanged with other offices. I have not seen a virus in any of them since
2010. Seems like you might be doing business with the wrong type of people.


I work for an ISP, managing our mail filtering services.

There are certainly legitimate Office document files being sent around, 
but there are plenty of malicious ones coming in too, and the "new" 
types are no guarantee the file is safe.  I certainly wouldn't exclude 
them from scanning.


-kgd
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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:

For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
*.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.



Tilman Schmidt wrote:

Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
*.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous
examination.



On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:33:19 -0400, Kris Deugau stated:

In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.


thus, they should be checked and quarantined/refused.

On 29.10.18 13:08, Jerry wrote:

We have a a steady flow of "*.doc", "*.docx" "*.xlsx" and *.pdf" files
exchanged with other offices. I have not seen a virus in any of them since
2010. Seems like you might be doing business with the wrong type of people.


wrong people may send viruses to random recipients, spreading viruses over
the world.
Happens for years...

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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:33:19 -0400, Kris Deugau stated:

>Tilman Schmidt wrote:
>> Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:  
>>> For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
>>> *.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.  
>> 
>> Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
>> *.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
>> You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous
>> examination.  
>
>In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.

We have a a steady flow of "*.doc", "*.docx" "*.xlsx" and *.pdf" files
exchanged with other offices. I have not seen a virus in any of them since
2010. Seems like you might be doing business with the wrong type of people.

-- 
Jerry


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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Kris Deugau

Tilman Schmidt wrote:

Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:

For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
*.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.


Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
*.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous examination.


In my experience, the new ones aren't any better.

-kgd
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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-29 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 26.10.18 um 15:34 schrieb Johnny Time:
> For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains
> *.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.

Surely you meant to write "*.docx,*.xlsx,*.pdf"?
*.doc and *.xls are the old, malware-prone MS-Office filetypes.
You don't want to let those pass, at least not without rigorous examination.

Cheers,
Tilman

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Re: [clamav-users] Whitelisting extensions for virus scan

2018-10-26 Thread Kris Deugau

Johnny Time wrote:

Hi Folks,

We use Clamav and we wonder if we can whitelist some extensions on our 
virus scan ?



For exemple, we wanted to authorize only a white list which contains 
*.doc,*.xls,*.pdf and ban the others extensions.


If you're looking to block all files except a limited set of extensions, 
this is probably better done a layer up in your mail flow.  I call Clam 
from MIMEDefang, for instance, so I would configure MIMEDefang to reject 
mail that has any other file types attached.


However, the three you've listed can all contain malware;  you really 
don't want to *skip* scanning those.


-kgd
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