that may be
my bias from having worked with javac engineers. It's probably good enough for
at least the initial stages of merging in OpenJDK classes.)
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more critical if you want to provide infinite-precision
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RMS wrote:
That license is GPL-compatible, so it is ok to use the code
and ok to import it as a package that is "not part of GCC"
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It surely makes more sense there than as part of Kawa.
Huh? Kawa needs gnu.bytecode amd can't assume Classpath
- at least not yet!
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y influence the decision as to what to import and how to do it.
Also, before you import large chunks of code that have not been
assigned to the FSF, you should get approval from Stallman.
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http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/inetlib.html talks about inetlib.
However, I don't see any links to download the code,
nor any detailed (api or tutorial) documentation.
The left sidebar has a "Download" link, but that only has links for
downloading Classpath proper.
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Richard stallman write last night:
I agree to the use of the E
ould be cleared with the FSF.
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 12:20:02AM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
Harmony appears to be basically an attempt at a hostile takeover of the
Free Java movement. They're all in favor of cooperation - as long as
it is 100% on their terms. Complete surrender is all they will a
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w the developers to provide Classpath under an Apache
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or at least said they would), though said they'd work on fixing the
problem for 4.1.
Until this is fixed, I don't think jpackage or Fedora or Debian (for example)
should be distributing javacc, unless they put it under "non-free".
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is very lackadaisical when it comes to licensing
issues, so ClassPath (as a GNU project) needs to be very cautious
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1.3 (does anyone remember what was new in 1.3?)
Classpath 4.0 imlements JDK 1.4
Classpath 5.0 implements Java 5 aka JDK 1.5
Classpath 6.0 implements Java 6 aka JDK 1.6
So we can release Classpath 1.0 now (after a little more testing) and
Classpath 2.0 in half a year, maybe.
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Ken Larson wrote:
Let's say for example standard Java defines some constant like
FileFormat.BINARY. The Javadoc does not specify the value of this
constant.
Actually, it probably does:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/constant-values.html
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Roman Kennke wrote:
Hi there,
Am Freitag, den 20.01.2006, 13:05 -0800 schrieb Per Bothner:
Mark Wielaard wrote:
Hi Phillipe,
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 15:03 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
It is our understanding that a GPL VM can't be freely redistributed
in a commercial pr
have to
freely redistributing source for the commercial product. (Of course
we know that Free ("open-source") Software is not incompatible with
it being commercial (i.e. for-profit) - but it is incompatible with
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a bug.
One should be able to change toString before better output or
debuggability without breaking equals.
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ement if equals has been redefined. And I often put
in a sequence number in the toString result, for debugging.
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tage: More complex. After a reset, then a read(byte[],int, int)
will only get S-M bytes.
Assuming buffer alignment isn't an issue, then I'd say use a combination
of (1) if possible and (2) if needed.
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Subversion is basically a "better cvs", centralized in the same way,
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ll;
offset = buf;
}
DataBufferInt(int[] arr) {
array = arr;
offset = SIZE_OF_ARRAY_HEADER;
}
int[] getData () {
int[] ar = new int[size];
copy_form_native_buffer_into(ar);
array = ar;
offset = SIZE_OF_ARRAY_HEADER;
}
}
This works even if the array is moved by the
int32) i;
signed int32 js = (signed int32) j;
Then (i COMP j) if and only if
((signed int32) (is ^ 0x80) COMP (signed int32) (js & 0x8000)).
Which is probably faster than:
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for Apache to allow (b) but not (a)?
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the same class, but
(x!=y) in they were defined in different classes.
People expect that ("a"=="a").
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mewhat more restricted,
but if you want to use DOM to support XQuery/XPath/XSLT objects
it makes sense to allow more generality.
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odest encoding and fine-tuning of existing styles.
(I still mostly use Emacs.)
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manage it. It might be useful to get
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a who've spent person-decades
putting together a very nice Java implementation. It's a shame that
politics are preventing us from using either.
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Dalibor Topic wrote:
Their licensing on JavaCC seems to be all over the place, really.
I reported this as an "issue":
https://javacc.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69
No response of any kind.
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fixed, at least for Java.
I haven't tested M5a yet.
See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=68506
(Though this bug was about the formatter, not the editor.)
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build.xml, it should (after asking) Do The Right Thing to set
up a "Java Ant-based project" rather than a plain "Java project".
If I'm doing things wrong, I'd very much appreciate a "cookbook"
for how this is sup
two stanadrd GNU styles: "GNU, with tabs"
and "GNU, without tabs".
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ot;. This does not necessaily mean using the same
cvs (or snv) repository, though that is an option. It does mean
marking bugs in bugzilla in as *if* they were branches. It would
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Hopefully we'll have something usable soon.
I also suggest we submit a standard "GNU" coding style, and ask them
to include it as a standard formatting style.
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an share code between
the gcj compiler and runtime, maybe it can be parameterized
further so it can be plugged into other VMs?)
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gazine articles.
However, avoiding the official Sun-licensed specification doesn't
protect you from patent or trademark issues. And Sun has trademarked
"Java", so if you implement a class called java.lang.String then you
could conceivably be infringing on Sun's trademark.
That
off the hook here. If nothing else the classes and
API's in the java* namespaces would fall under Sun's copyright.
You mean Sun's trademark, not copyright, of course.
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ze for the glibc case. If on non-glibc platforms floating-point
conversion isn't quite as exact as the spec requires, fixing that is
not a priority. Of course if somebody wants to work on a more portable
solution, that is great, as lang as it doesn't penalize the glibc case.
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trtod may not be accurate.
Note that parseDouble is required to return the *closest*
double. This is a difficult requirement to meet, and cannot be done
by simple (i.e. traditional) implementations.
If the strtod in glibc is threadsafe *and* accurate, then we should
probably use it, at least as a defa
s with working on Classpath,
but I don't think there is an essential conflict. A strict cleanroom
approach would keep implementors from directly accessing either Sun's
implementation or specification, but such strict separation is not
legally required, and we don't have the resources for it.
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reading the specification is a risk, I suspect it
falls into the "necessary" category.
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instance fields, if some code change the field value
before the initialization is assigned.
For exmple:
class Z {
static int peek() { return j++; }
static int i = peek();
static int j = 0;
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n, and gcj-compiled .so files.
I'd like to make a compatible kawa-NNN.rpm ...
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I.
The Posix IO functions (open/read/write etc) are available on
Windows. I don't know why they're not used - performance?
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cult.
Yes, it's more elegant to install a single copy of Classpath, but
GCJ is not going to use the "system installation" of Classpath, and
I wouldn't expect others to do so either.
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I'd rather use jlong. But I don't see any real reason not to
use RawData. I can see on a few JVMs it may cause problems,
but they can easily sed the source to convert RawData to long.
Just think of RawData has a macro.
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implementation of the JDK 1.2 libraries, let along 1.4
or 1.5. There is also no open-source compiler that (as far as I
know) implements the new 1.5 language, and few VMs that implement the
debugging/profiling hooks.
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duplicate Sun's work, but of course
Sun is under no obligation to us.
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27;re
supposed to use the ByteOrder of a ByteBuffer when
the various View classes are created, not whatever
the current ByteOrder of the underlying ByteBuffer.
Also, the DirectByteBuffer getXxx methods now use
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er of problems with it. There are almost certainly still bugs in it,
but now it shouldn't fail quite so easily.
I checked the attached patch into libjava.
It should also go into Classpath.
I also have a Mauve test case.
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Fedora Core 2 will also supposedly include GCJ-based Tomcat etc.
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Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
Tom Tromey
GCJ is a free Java front end for EGCS.
> This new front end is integrated into the EGCS project.
EGCS? New front end?
Tom, you're living in the past ...
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personal preference
by changing a display parameter (the tab width) without changing any
source files.
Unfortunately, it's incompatible with the Unix tab-is-8-column
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time. Nowadays, Java uses the
full Unicode character set.
But rather awkwardly and incompletely. Is there a replacement for
java.lang.Character, which only handles 16-bit 'char' values?
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I don't think so. Classpath uses GPL+exception and can be linked
with proprietary applications. So someone could almost certainly
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w. I think creating
a new non-portable sub-class is solving a non-existent problem.
But more important is throwing *some* exception. We *must* fix the
current situation where unimplemented methods silently do nothing
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Michael Koch wrote:
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We discussed this in March, and there was agreement that we
should use use UnsupportedOperationException.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java/2003-03/msg00016.html
Its never
We discussed this in March, and there was agreement that we
should use use UnsupportedOperationException.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java/2003-03/msg00016.html
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put pre-releases on alpha.gnu.org, but if you already have
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ion number,
I'd call it a release, even if it's not a 1.0 relase. alpha.gnu.org
has outlived its usefulness (evidenced by the fact that it is little
used) now that "alpha" code is available in CVS for most projects.
Note that alpha.gnu.org is not mirrored the way ftp.gnu.org is.
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rUTF8.
You could add a flag to EncoderUTF8 file to enable "Java-style UTF8",
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UnsupportedOperationException (REASON);
where REASON is a string literal that includes "not implemented"
and all on a single line (to make it easy to grep for).
See http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java/2003-03/msg00016.html
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class. The latter implements javax.swing.text.AbstractDocument.Content.
These are used in the JEmacs implementation that comes with Kawa.
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> assignment paperwork. How does that sound?
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is a good idea reason to call super,finalize
if super is Object - and I don't think we should warn in that case.
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Brian Jones wrote:
Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Many projects, including gcc itself, prohibit warnings.
Then what is the purpose of -Wall? :)
To enable a bunch of warnings for questionable code.
The CVS head of gcc is compiled with -Wall -Werror.
The latter turns warnings in
les.
Yes, but only if the JVM does the recommended optimization.
I don't know if GCJ does.
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ompiler warning, and the user would be
free to ignore it.
Many projects, including gcc itself, prohibit warnings.
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. E.g:
public URI (String scheme, String ssp, String fragment)
throws URISyntaxException
{
throw new UnsupportedOperationException();
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oid *' pointer. This may not be portable to other
VMs directly, but you could have a script convert gnu.gcj.RawData
to int or long, depending on the target word size.
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Giannis Georgalis wrote:
Yes, you are right. So what you are suggesting is a hand-written
parser, don't you ?
Yes. I generally prefer hard-written parsers and scanners
anyway, and in the case I certainly think a generated
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parsing is complete, the parser object is *dead*.
But you still have to allocate the parser object(s), which a
hand-written parser doesn't have to. And object allocation
is relatively expensive, in the context of parsing a URI.
en.
Of course a complicated Perl-style regular expression with
backtracking will be very difficult to implement by hand,
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I have not looked at the source other than this. What am I missing?
Did Sun just release swing, etc under a BSD license??
Probably not intentionally ...
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who asked.
I think that is a feature, not a bug in the license. We want to
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ere is limited support for re-ordering code.) (I would like
change it to use "basic blocks" as the fundamental unit, using the
algorithms I wrote for gcc/java/jcf-write.c, but I haven't had time.)
gnu.bytecode is compatible with the GPL.
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this should be taken out - it
doesn't even match the documentation.
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t the same problem would occur, if anyone would
> include classpath code in a non-GPLed project, so I thought you might have an
> answer.
But Classpath is not GPL - it is GPL with an extra exception allowing
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+ Array.get(array, i));
This makes it possible for a compiler to do the optimization to
multiple print calls that my patch does.
Alteratively, I suggest just removing all the dumpElement calls.
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behave *as if* it used the specified algorithm or code,
but as long as no valid program can tell the difference,
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fer size (capacity), sizne the limit is always less
than te capacity, at least if we assume a GCJMappedByteBuffer or
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ample code and documentation is
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I would not be too hasty about changing any files quite yet.
I (in my capacity as a member of the Gcc steering comittee)
am pushing for a better resolution of this issue.
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learn) could write the code to generate the correct serilaization
direcectly without using temporary fields. (Even better would be to
avoid generating temporary objects when serializing, but I'll settle
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>
>Perhaps you're not on the classpath list...
>
No.
>>BeanContextSupport is used by Jetty. I believe Per had Jetty working with
>>GCJ,
>>
No, I don't recall working on Jetty. I've played with Jigsaw and
gnu-paperclips;
I believe i got the former basically
Alexandre Petit-Bianco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Per Bothner writes:
>
> > If someone wants a javap replacement in Java, you can use
> > gnu.bytecode.dump
>
> OT: Is the libjava tree the primary tree? I've been looking for an
> implementation of
one wants a javap replacement in Java, you can use
gnu.bytecode.dump
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ategories. The libiberty library
is an example. A regex library or getopt are other possible examples.
The GCC project emcompasses both kinds of code; classpath focuses on
"target libraries".
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