Re: Classpath and GTKFB?

2006-08-04 Thread Philippe Laporte
Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi Olivier, On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 11:52 +0200, Olivier LAHAYE wrote: I've tryed to compile classpath using gtkfb, thus using the --with-x=no, but the configure script refuses this option if compiling with GTK. Is there a simple workaround for that or it simply not

Re: Random list of AWT TODOs. DirectFB?

2006-07-21 Thread Philippe Laporte
that big refactoring separating the Cairo code from the GTK code from the X code ;)) Tack så mycket! (Thanks a whole lot) :-) Another interesting case is running on GTK-DirectFB. Does someone have an analogous perspective to share about that one? Thanks a lot, -- Philippe Laporte

Re: GTK 2.8

2006-06-06 Thread Philippe Laporte
of course, so that one can benefit from improvements in other sections of the code base while not upgrading specific other dependencies. I realize this may entail a configuration mess, but I'd like to explore the topic a bit. Thanks, -- Philippe Laporte On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 11:36 -0400

Platform Java on the 770 status

2006-05-11 Thread Philippe Laporte
://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27118 We will soon look into a CLDC-MIDP stack. As usual I invite all the willing to join in. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Technical Director Embedded Java and OMA DM Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35

configure options for extremes

2006-04-20 Thread Philippe Laporte
. We can assume an embedded environment even on x86 (when it comes to pre-zipping/unzipping jars issues). Thanks a lot, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OSGi TCK

2006-03-31 Thread Philippe Laporte
Dalibor Topic wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 23:51 +0200, Philippe Laporte wrote: You already pass our internal suite. Cool. I'd personally like to see the Biss-TVT AWT rescucitated. The thing draws on the Linux frame buffer without GTK. This is great for embedded. You

Re: OSGi TCK

2006-03-31 Thread Philippe Laporte
Tom Tromey wrote: Dalibor == Dalibor Topic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd personally like to see the Biss-TVT AWT rescucitated. The thing draws on the Linux frame buffer without GTK. This is great for embedded. Dalibor You may also want to take the Qt4 peers and make

Screenshots and Videos: KF/GST with Classpath on the 770

2006-03-29 Thread Philippe Laporte
development such as GUI-toolkits. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Screenshots and Videos: KF/GST with Classpath on the 770

2006-03-29 Thread Philippe Laporte
will have to wait due to our limited resources... Best Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 13:33 +0200

OSGi TCK

2006-03-29 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, We are currently looking into how to best communicate to you the results of our OSGi TCK runs with Knopflerfish, Classpath and various VMs. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46

[Fwd: Bugs in AWT]

2006-03-24 Thread Philippe Laporte
Note: this happened when not using Matchbox WM It is now: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26848 Original Message Subject:Bugs in AWT Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:11:42 +0100 From: Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GNU Classpath classpath@gnu.org

No need for 770 device to debug the AWT problems

2006-03-22 Thread Philippe Laporte
. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No need for 770 device to debug the AWT problems

2006-03-22 Thread Philippe Laporte
I should have added that it works fine with the JDK. Matchbox is kick-ass! Philippe Laporte wrote: Hi, Having a 770 device is not needed. What one needs is a nested X server that runs the same WM as on the 770 (Matchbox). Step-by-step instructions: 1. Build classpath 2. Build a JVM 3

Odonata

2006-03-21 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Dalibor Topic wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 00:12 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Which AWT should be used with Kaffe? Good old Biss or GTK+? Various people have tried updating the Biss AWT code in Kaffe to interoperate with AWT peer model from the spec as implemented in GNU

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-21 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Is anyone working on this currently? I might seriously look into it very soon. Thanks, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tapani Pälli wrote: ext

Re: WinCE

2006-03-20 Thread Philippe Laporte
you're too late. If you read everything after, things are clear now. No worries... Clemens Eisserer wrote: I don't believe in having a thousand VM projects. Mysaifu is nowhere near anything specs compliant. Wow this guy is unpolite! Maybe you should ask IBM(J9) or the company that

CACAO

2006-03-14 Thread Philippe Laporte
with Cacao. It'll be nice to see Cacao and libgcj become maemo packages. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jazelle

2006-03-13 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, I would appreciate if you could share some thoughts and/or knowledge about Jazelle and its performance and adoption. Thanks a lot, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email

Re: Jazelle

2006-03-13 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hej, Alright, that I knew :-) thanks. So for a free-VM to support, it would have to be a non-Free release I guess since the ARM license is actually joint with the Sun one... Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46

call for cooperation: signed jars

2006-03-10 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Casey Marshall wrote: On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Philippe Laporte wrote: Casey Marshall wrote: On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Philippe Laporte wrote: Does this library have (ie is in a perfect state) all the security and signing stuff that classpath lacks right now? How about

Re: money, money, money, and Freedom

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
the licensing. Get the story straight! How many arbitrary parameters can there be? And I will again argue that we should focus efforts so as to best compete with the people who have money first in that list up there. And let's spread some loove. We are all great! Have a nice day, -- Philippe

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Dalibor Topic wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 23:30 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Hej, Well, see that's my outsider take. In my view people should join efforts independently of egos. Perhaps I am too idealistic... I am sure if you spend some time researching on the Internet

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Chris Burdess wrote: Philippe Laporte wrote: I am sorry that my purpose is not clear yet. It will be soon enough. ... when I solve world poverty, and people are bowing down to me in the streets. that's one way to get what I'm writing... Do I really need to answer this? I think

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Are we supposed to laugh or cry? :-) Andrew Haley wrote: Philippe Laporte writes: - Sable has a large and active community - Sable is LGPL. GPL does not work for maemo. Read why at http://sablevm.org/wiki/License_FAQ. Cannot open /var/lib/wiki/sablevm.org/page/L/License_FAQ.pg: Permission

Re: WinCE

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Thanks a whole lot for this great information! Dalibor Topic wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 00:12 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Hi, What would be the possible hurdles, off the top-of-your-head? Didn't kaffe have a CE port? That's KaffeCE. It does not use GNU Classpath

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Christian Thalinger wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 11:11 +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: There isn't a thousand ways to do a VM. What we need is free VM that is better than any non-free. How are we doing on this one? Depends on how you interpret better. Faster? Smaller? ...? CLDC

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770:http://sablevm.org/wiki/License_FAQ is blocked.

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
uuhhh, it's obvious that it was made so in the last few hours...it was fine before... Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audrius Meskauskas wrote: Etienne Gagnon

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Thanks for your mail which is very helpful. Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi Philippe, Please try to keep the lists on topic. And please keep runtime specific stuff on the specific runtime lists. Don't cross-post unnecessary (others have also done that, it is not just you). People please keep

Real questions

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Archie Cobbs wrote: Brian Jones wrote: I'm not following Harmony too closely (so let me talk out my ... a moment) but let me see if I understand it so far. Harmony is: 1) Writing their own class libraries (based on email about japi comparisons) 2) Writing their own JVM (which I

Java on the 770 (who cares about licensing)

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
support in Classpath. We would do the rest. Another thing we might do is add profile options to the Classpath build system if they don't exist yet. I hope that many will find this interesting and want to join in some way. Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Director of OMA and Embedded Development

a serious mistype on my part...

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Here's a little bit more information re #2. I've Who? This is probably a life-time worst...

Re: Real questions

2006-03-09 Thread Philippe Laporte
Casey Marshall wrote: On Mar 9, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Philippe Laporte wrote: Does this library have (ie is in a perfect state) all the security and signing stuff that classpath lacks right now? How about the security audit? I don't understand (and have been largely ignoring this thread

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, You are some character! Luckily you are not the standard... These questions must be asked. They are not attacks. That is your own cultural-specific interpretation... I am an independent party seeking the best embedded VM, that's it, that's all. Regards, Philippe Laporte Software

Re: WinCE

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, I don't believe in having a thousand VM projects. Mysaifu is nowhere near anything specs compliant. Let's have focus. Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, I'm forwarding this to other relevant lists as well. The 770 window manager is Matchbox: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ Is the color map problem already assigned to someone? Best Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Dalibor Topic wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no? That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world... That is true. But running java bytecode

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
. They didn't ask for ti, but you'd have a hard time convincing me they are not contructive and appreciated in the end... Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom

[Fwd: Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770]

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Mar 2006 23:30:57 +0100 From: Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: classpath@gnu.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hej, Well, see that's my

Re: WinCE

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, What would be the possible hurdles, off the top-of-your-head? Didn't kaffe have a CE port? How much of the kaffe code has been integrated to classpath? Which AWT should be used? Good old Biss or GTK+? Thanks a lot, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan

WinCE

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hej guys, Another newbie question: (please forgive these lazy person questions but I can't spend the time to answer them myself right now). Is there a Classpath port for WinCE and if not where is ti at? Thanks, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
only, or any other profile. As for the MIDP implementation, someone is working on it (announced on the wishlist). Best Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:49:42PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: - Sable has a large and active community In the last time the project seems to be very

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: - Sable has a large and active community In the last time the project seems to be very inactive except some mails on the lists. Not true. They just like to keep it low volume for some reason

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no? That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world... That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JNI libs during that doenst render all the java/native code you run with the VM to

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no? That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world... That is true. But running java bytecode

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: On tis, 2006-03-07 at 15:26 +0100, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Michael Koch wrote

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to say...:-) I'm sure they will introduce just another opinion. ok, but what assets does FSF have to lose...?

deluge of information

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
i'll just periodically give you the main lines i guess -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Fwd: deluge of information]

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
wrong recipient, very sorry, been sending way too many mails today :-) Original Message Subject:deluge of information Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:58:33 +0100 From: Philippe Laporte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GNU Classpath classpath@gnu.org i'll just periodically

so the question is: why have the linking exception instead of LGPL

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Why did Classpath ever go with that esoteric linking exception instead of simple LGPL? I can think of several reasons, but I wanna know God's thoughts, the rest are details...just kidding :-) Best Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18

Re: Win CE port

2006-01-24 Thread Philippe Laporte
, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per Bothner wrote: Roman Kennke wrote: Hi there, Am Freitag, den 20.01.2006, 13:05 -0800 schrieb Per Bothner: Mark Wielaard wrote

Re: Win CE port

2006-01-20 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, You mean it's a simple gcc target? Thanks, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roman Kennke wrote: Hi Philippe, Am Donnerstag, den 19.01.2006, 18:56 +0100

Re: Win CE port

2006-01-20 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, It is our understanding that a GPL VM can't be freely redistributed in a commercial product. We therefore have stopped looking after seeing a satisfactory LGPL VM. Other insights? Thanks a lot, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg

Win CE port

2006-01-19 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, I believe that Classpath has been ported to Win CE, correct? What library did you use to achieve POSIX compatibility? What toolchain? Thanks, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email