> "Stuart" == Stuart Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stuart> This is slightly strange to me. We (the Free Software community) are
Stuart> forced to make our own test suite because Sun won't release theirs
Stuart> under terms we can use, but when we do write our own, we put it under
Stuart>
Stuart Ballard writes:
> (including the Classpath list as well as Mauve list here as I don't
> know how many people actually read the mauve list)
>
> Recently on the Harmony list there's been some discussion of how tests
> should be written and where they should be put. I chimed in pointing
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:51:41PM -0500, Stuart Ballard wrote:
> On 2/16/06, Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This can make sense if the Harmony tests are Harmony-specific.
>
> Some are, some aren't. They plan to have a separation between the two
> though. So Classpath will be able to
Stuart Ballard wrote:
The point is that, for whatever reasons (rational or irrational), some
people simply won't contribute to a GPL-licensed project. Some of
those people are Harmony contributors. If those people want to
contribute to a Java testsuite, which they do, it won't be Mauve as
long as
(this is going to show up in the wrong place in the thread - for some
reason I can see mails showing up in the archives but I'm not
receiving them myself till much later, so I don't have this one myself
to respond to yet)
Andrew Haley wrote:
> > but costing us contributors.
>
> This part is the m
I don't really understand your reasoning here. You haven't explained
why all the usual reasons in favour of GPL don't apply to testsuites.
Andrew.
Stuart Ballard wrote:
But as I understand it their current plan is to use Mauve *in addition
to* (and secondary to) their own test suite and only develop their own
tests in their own repository.
So we end up with two test suites being developed by two disjoint
groups, both of whom are free to (a
Stuart Ballard writes:
>
> Even RMS points out that using non-copyleft licenses can be beneficial
> when it's a net gain for Free Software as a whole (eg Ogg).
>
> And in this case I think there is such a gain, because the GPL is
> buying us nothing (since there's no practical reason why an
Hi.
> But you seem also to be asking the religious question "why GPL"?
> Like most religious questions that one has no objective "answer"..
I dont think that "why GPL" is a religious question. The one who asks deserves
an answer and here is mine:
> If you really want to hear an "answer" then you
On 2/16/06, Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This can make sense if the Harmony tests are Harmony-specific.
Some are, some aren't. They plan to have a separation between the two
though. So Classpath will be able to use the non-specific part of
Harmony's testsuite.
> Otherwise I don't see
On 2/16/06, Archie Cobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This Apache/Harmony thing vs. Claspath/GPL debate is just so tempting.. :-)
Heh.
> But let's talk practicalities.. here's a simple thing I don't understand.
>
> What exactly prevents Harmony from using Mauve as a test suite?
Nothing, and in f
the scheme of things.
AIUI currently you couldn't integrate the two if you wanted to because
JUnit is under a non-GPL-compatible license. Another reason why a
Mauve license change would be a benefit.
>From a practical point of view, if the license issues disappeared, it
would presumably
Stuart Ballard wrote:
Harmony hackers get to see that Classpath hackers aren't inflexible
GPL-zealots, and both groups of hackers get used to working together
on a project that benefits both.
This Apache/Harmony thing vs. Claspath/GPL debate is just so tempting.. :-)
But let's talk practicalit
Stuart Ballard wrote:
(including the Classpath list as well as Mauve list here as I don't
know how many people actually read the mauve list)
Recently on the Harmony list there's been some discussion of how tests
should be written and where they should be put. I chimed in pointing
out what I tho
(including the Classpath list as well as Mauve list here as I don't
know how many people actually read the mauve list)
Recently on the Harmony list there's been some discussion of how tests
should be written and where they should be put. I chimed in pointing
out what I thought would be a no-braine
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