On Oct 23, 2003, at 3:17 AM, Stuart Ballard wrote:
Andrew Haley wrote:
Where is this software?
I haven't found it yet, but see postings from Brian Jones on this list
where he indicates it's in OMG's FTP area (which I still can't find
linked from their site). I guess that you could argue that
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Incidentally, the link for the jgss package is also misleading, as the
RFC doesn't appear to contain any implementation of the package in
question (I scanned all the way to the end, the only source code was
examples of usage) and even if it did, the
Bryce McKinlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as I know, the OMG doesn't make any software - just
specifications.
Since I'm allowed, the javartf Source.zip is now online at
http://www.haphazard.org/~cbj/classpath/javartf/Source.zip. Even so,
the license makes it impractical for the
Brian Jones wrote:
I don't know if the FSF has characterized the OMG license as non-free
yet. We can't include it but we're certainly free to point people at
it. It's called 'javartf' and I still have a copy of it if someone
wants it. I couldn't get into the ftp site just now myself.
Surely if
Hi,
If software that is non-free is software that is not part of the GNU
project, then Linux is non-free, and someone has somewhere defined free
as being GNU.
If you disallow links to software that itself provides links to
non-free software, you are effectively trying to create your own
separate
Ricky Clarkson writes:
If software that is non-free is software that is not part of the GNU
project,
False premise.
then Linux is non-free, and someone has somewhere defined free
as being GNU.
Incorrect conclusion. Please see The Free Software Definition,
Andrew Haley wrote:
FSF pages don't link to unfree software projects. It seems that OMG
is not be an unfree software project, because Implementations of the
OMG specifications - such as Object Request Brokers, IDL compilers,
and UML-based modeling tools - are not produced by OMG. They are,
Stuart Ballard writes:
Andrew Haley wrote:
FSF pages don't link to unfree software projects. It seems that OMG
is not be an unfree software project, because Implementations of the
OMG specifications - such as Object Request Brokers, IDL compilers,
and UML-based modeling tools - are
Hi,
To fix 3, the link must be removed entirely. If for some reason 3
doesn't need to be fixed (eg I'm misinterpreting GNU project policy), at
least 1 and 2 should be.
I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software
of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is
Mark Wielaard wrote:
I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software
of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is Free Software.
Could you provide a patch (source is in CVS module classpath under
docs/www.gnu.org).
Sure, I'll try to do this in the next couple of
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mark Wielaard wrote:
I think you are right. It is not a good idea to provide links to software
of which we cannot (currently) guarantee that it is Free Software.
Could you provide a patch (source is in CVS module classpath under
docs/www.gnu.org).
Stuart == Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stuart Then isn't Classpath violating GNU project policy by advertising
Stuart non-free software on its homepage?
I guess so.
There's also JacORB to link to. I think we had one of these running
with libgcj a long time ago. I haven't tried
://www.oberon.ethz.ch/jaos
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brian Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: GNU Classpath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: org.omg link on Classpath homepage
Brian Jones wrote:
Basically they will never be free
Stuart Ballard wrote:
b) If they are free but aren't GPL-compatible, shouldn't there be a
prominent warning because (if I understand the issues correctly) that
would make anything that's simultaneously a derived work of Classpath
and the org.omg packages completely unredistributable?
I don't
Per Bothner wrote:
I don't think so. Classpath uses GPL+exception and can be linked
with proprietary applications. So someone could almost certainly
distribute Classpath + org.omg.
You're right. I should have said Free but aren't
GPL+exception-compatible. I'm not sure whether such a thing is
Stuart Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a link to http://www.omg.org/ on Classpath's homepage,
referencing it as a provider for free core packages for the org.omg
packages. I have a few questions about this:
1) I can't actually find any downloadable implementation of the
org.omg
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