Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Meikel Brandmeyer
Hi, On 20 Apr., 02:31, Fred Concklin wrote: > Just a thought, but you could use something like gitcred to give it away > for free if people meet a certain threshold for involvement in the > clojure ecosystem. This also might incentivize clojure development and > allow you to offer it free to aut

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Fred Concklin
Just a thought, but you could use something like gitcred to give it away for free if people meet a certain threshold for involvement in the clojure ecosystem. This also might incentivize clojure development and allow you to offer it free to authors whose libraries are in your graph. https://github

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Andy Fingerhut
I'm signed up for future notices. Think of it like a book about Clojure and some of its libraries on a web site, except it is more index than prose. People seem to give books a chance quite often, if they are informative enough. (Chas, feel free to use an analogy like that on the web site. T

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
Assuming people find this sort of presentation useful, I would very much like to see it used to model other libraries and such. One step at a time… Crowdsourcing is a good model for some things, but I don't think it's a panacea. I know I'd rather have original authors build the ontologies ass

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Ulises wrote: > I just clicked on "Try it" and only got to a short blurb and a > subscribe form. Is this the right behaviour? Indeed. As I say nearby, the app isn't quite ready for public consumption yet. I put the site up now so as to garner some early feedback a

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread rob levy
Again, it's not that *I* wouldn't pay, it just seems unfortunate that most people won't get to use it. Whether right or misguided, there is a culture of free as in free beer on the net, that will result in most not giving it a chance. A separate but related issue is the advantage of free as in fr

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Paul deGrandis wrote: > This is a great piece visualization for Clojure and very much how I > think about the language as I'm working with it (based on the pictures > and descriptions). This is a nice niche piece of documentation for > the community, power users, and

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Ulises
I just clicked on "Try it" and only got to a short blurb and a subscribe form. Is this the right behaviour? U -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new membe

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:10 PM, rob levy wrote: > This seems great. The $20 bothers me, not because I don't want to pay it, I > would gladly donate this meager amount for such a useful resource. There's > just something in poor taste about not making this open to everyone. And > there's an imp

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Brenton
Great work Chas! I can't wait to try it out (and pay for it). On Apr 19, 9:19 am, Chas Emerick wrote: > Today, I’m opening up a “preview” site for Clojure Atlas [1], a new side > project of mine that I’m particularly excited about. > > Clojure Atlas is an experiment in visualizing a programming

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread rob levy
I think there might be something I don't get about the "hand-curated" aspect. It would be great if it could be crowd sourced, with the kinds of heterarchical guarantees of quality and expertise that have served services like StackOverflow and Wikipedia so well. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Aa

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
Duly noted Aaron, and thanks. :-) - Chas On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Aaron Bedra wrote: > I would pay $20 per project for this easily. You did some great work (from > the looks of it anyways) and you should get the financial reward from it. > This isn't a charity, it's a service, and I woul

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Aaron Bedra
Also, when I mean "per project", I mean that in the sense that I am working with different customers who would find it valuable and pay for the access for them :) -- Cheers, Aaron Bedra -- Clojure/core http://clojure.com On 04/19/2011 01:23 PM, Aaron Bedra wrote: I would pay $20 per project

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Aaron Bedra
I would pay $20 per project for this easily. You did some great work (from the looks of it anyways) and you should get the financial reward from it. This isn't a charity, it's a service, and I would treat it as such. Keep up the awesome! -- Cheers, Aaron Bedra -- Clojure/core http://clojur

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread rob levy
This seems great. The $20 bothers me, not because I don't want to pay it, I would gladly donate this meager amount for such a useful resource. There's just something in poor taste about not making this open to everyone. And there's an implicit camaraderie and good will that developer communities

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Paul deGrandis
This is a great piece visualization for Clojure and very much how I think about the language as I'm working with it (based on the pictures and descriptions). This is a nice niche piece of documentation for the community, power users, and newly emerging Clojure shops. Is your freemium model limiti

Re: ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
Oh wow, this looks exciting! Subbed. Ambrose On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Chas Emerick wrote: > Today, I’m opening up a “preview” site for Clojure Atlas [1], a new side > project of mine that I’m particularly excited about. > > Clojure Atlas is an experiment in visualizing a programming lan

ANN: Clojure Atlas (preview!)

2011-04-19 Thread Chas Emerick
Today, I’m opening up a “preview” site for Clojure Atlas [1], a new side project of mine that I’m particularly excited about. Clojure Atlas is an experiment in visualizing a programming language and its standard library. I’ve long been frustrated with the limitations of text in programming, an