Re: video 'clojure for lisp programmers' won't play on youtube.

2015-04-08 Thread henry w
Thanks! I'll try that. On 8 Apr 2015 16:53, "Eli Naeher" wrote: > I ran into this problem last year and was able to watch it successfully by > using the youtube-dl tool (http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) to download > the video (and I then had no problems playing it locally). > > -Eli > > On Wed,

Re: video 'clojure for lisp programmers' won't play on youtube.

2015-04-08 Thread Eli Naeher
I ran into this problem last year and was able to watch it successfully by using the youtube-dl tool (http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) to download the video (and I then had no problems playing it locally). -Eli On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:31 AM, henry w wrote: > I just checked the comments and i

video 'clojure for lisp programmers' won't play on youtube.

2015-04-08 Thread henry w
I just checked the comments and it has been this way for quite some time. Does anyone know if it can be found elsewhere? i found old links to bliptv but it has been taken down from there. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To p

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-22 Thread André Thieme
On 16 Nov., 23:31, Simon Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone written a very simple introduction to Clojure for LISP > hackers? I've spend an evening playing with it pretty intensively, and > thus far I haven't got a thing to work. I've > readhttp://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Clojure_Program

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread notallama
the vector syntax seems nice to me. you get the whole "() means function", "[] means sequential binding", "{} means associative binding", and it makes code easier to read/skim over. you could have lists for seq binding, but i think using a different syntax gets you out of that "everything is a lis

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Luc Prefontaine
I fully agree with you Konrad. If Clojure eases up code reading for non-Lispers while not changing the principles behind then what's the problem ? As far as breaking the s-expr esthetics... bof, I could not care less. Easier here means easier to understand for non-Lispers. They are the ones we nee

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Newton
--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Rich Hickey wrote: > I've presented Clojure to many of the people who wrote > CL and Scheme, and no one can deny it is a Lisp. I'd also add that at Lisp50 Clojure was very well received by many Lisperati, and many, if not most, of the folks there were *way* into Scheme and

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Wood
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Stuart Halloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > I have converted a bunch of the examples from Practical Common Lisp > into Clojure [1]. You might find this helpful in seeing things from a > Clojure perspective. > > Cheers, > Stuart > > [1] http://blog

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Rich Hickey
You contend that Lisp is regular, without defining regular. I contend that as soon as you have ' it is not regular, and no one writes Lisp without '. You keep using the term 'syntax' for Clojure's non-list data structures. If list literals are not syntax, neither are vector or map literals. You

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Stuart Halloway
Hi Simon, I have converted a bunch of the examples from Practical Common Lisp into Clojure [1]. You might find this helpful in seeing things from a Clojure perspective. Cheers, Stuart [1] http://blog.thinkrelevance.com/2008/9/16/pcl-clojure > Has anyone written a very simple introduction

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread mac
On Nov 17, 4:52 am, Luc Prefontaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never read anywhere in the documentation or in the user group that > Clojure is a Common LISP implementation. > > Since it's existence, LISP has not gained a large acceptance in the > commercial market compared to other "conventi

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Konrad Hinsen
On Nov 17, 2008, at 13:56, Simon Brooke wrote: > However, you're dead wrong about Lots of Irritating Stupid > Parentheses. They are the heart of the language: the fact that it does > not need any irregular syntax, because everything is regular. For me, the heart of Lisp is that code is expressed

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Simon Brooke
On Nov 17, 3:52 am, Luc Prefontaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since it's existence, LISP has not gained a large acceptance in the > commercial market compared to other "conventional" programming > languages. This is true; I think, though, it's largely a fashion thing. In the days when you and

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Newton
--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Simon Brooke wrote: > I admit I started without reading the documentation, but having got > stuck I then read the documentation - both that at Clojure.org and > that in the Wikibook - carefully. It didn't help. I just don't see how that's possible, since somehow I've managed

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Simon Brooke
On Nov 17, 7:43 am, "Howard Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I generally like that Clojure dispenses with parens that exist for the > benefit of the evaluator rather than the developer; thus far fewer > parens when using (cond).  Still, my old Lisp habits (20 years without > use) succumbed

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Simon Brooke
On Nov 16, 11:01 pm, Brian W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to assume this is serious and not a joke, but you do realize > Clojure is already quite well documented at clojure.org? I admit I started without reading the documentation, but having got stuck I then read the documentation - bot

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff Rose
I hope you are either 14 years old, or joking. Rather than sitting down and attempting to conjure up perfect lines of a new programming language you have never used before, it might be good to spend some time reading! Learning new things is good for your brain, and I can promise you Clojure

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I generally like that Clojure dispenses with parens that exist for the benefit of the evaluator rather than the developer; thus far fewer parens when using (cond). Still, my old Lisp habits (20 years without use) succumbed as much as Simons. See my earlier thread about exception reporting. Coul

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread mb
Hi Simon, there is a detailed explanation of syntax, data structures etc. as well as a complete reference at the Clojure site[1]. Then there's a wiki[2] with a lot of information of setting Clojure up with different editors like emacs or vim and a lot of examples. Also explaining some of the qui

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread Luc Prefontaine
I never read anywhere in the documentation or in the user group that Clojure is a Common LISP implementation. Since it's existence, LISP has not gained a large acceptance in the commercial market compared to other "conventional" programming languages. I started to use it 28 years ago (UCI Lisp on

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread Dave Newton
I'll add that: (cond (foo bar) (baz plugh)) => (cond (foo) (bar) (baz) (plugh)) This particular CL difference is listed on the wiki page you listed: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Clojure_Programming#Clojure_for_Common_Lisp_Programmers I also didn't have anywhere near these kinds of problems get

Re: Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread Brian W
I'm going to assume this is serious and not a joke, but you do realize Clojure is already quite well documented at clojure.org? #t t => true define defun =>defn car, cdr, caar, etc. ~> first, rest, ffirst, rrest, frest, rfirst arglists are vectors because [ ] stand out better

Clojure for LISP programmers....

2008-11-16 Thread Simon Brooke
Has anyone written a very simple introduction to Clojure for LISP hackers? I've spend an evening playing with it pretty intensively, and thus far I haven't got a thing to work. I've read http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Clojure_Programming#Clojure_for_Common_Lisp_Programmers, but it hasn't helped me.