Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-29 Thread cassiel
On Jul 29, 1:18 am, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote: On the one hand, assuming that Java 7 doesn't outright break anything, [...] Like loops? http://www.lucidimagination.com/blog/2011/07/28/dont-use-java-7-for-anything/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-29 Thread Aaron Bedra
On 07/28/2011 11:54 AM, Daniel Gagnon wrote: So, what does it means for Clojure? Faster execution? Some new interesting stuff in the standard Java library? And I remember there was something about forkjoin that would be good for Clojure, what about that? -- You received this message because

Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Daniel Gagnon
So, what does it means for Clojure? Faster execution? Some new interesting stuff in the standard Java library? And I remember there was something about forkjoin that would be good for Clojure, what about that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Daniel Gagnon redalas...@gmail.com wrote: So, what does it means for Clojure? It's not going to mean anything for a long time. Clojure still supports Java 5 so it is probably going to be years before Java 7 is mainstream enough that Clojure can _require_ it. --

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Kenny Stone
Can clojure take advantage of some features if they are available? I know the JRuby dudes are pretty excited about invoke dynamic... Kenny On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Daniel Gagnon redalas...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Tal Liron
I have to agree with this. In fact, it would be much easier to integrate into Clojure than JRuby (or other JVM languages). I know the Clojure Java source code pretty well, and wouldn't mind playing with it a bit to see how feasible it is. The ideal deployment solution would be to have an extra

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Ken Wesson
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Kenny Stone kennethst...@gmail.com wrote: Can clojure take advantage of  some features if they are available?  I know the JRuby dudes are pretty excited about invoke dynamic... I'm not really sure there's a single answer to that question. On the one hand,

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread OGINO Masanori
AFAIK using InvokeDynamic *requires* Java7, so I think it will be done if Java7 gets default and it fits for Clojure. However, for example, new HotSpot gains more performance then Clojure may also gain if you use Java7... (but you can't force everyone to use Java7 of course.) Also, you can call

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread Bill Robertson
The new JVM really starts fast. Clojure users will like that. I also noticed that (at least for 64-bit) that the Windows version only comes with the hotspot compiler. No client jvm. I haven't checked 32-bit. This is a big change, because previous 32-bit JRE's only came w/ client. I had never

Re: Java 7 is out!

2011-07-28 Thread OGINO Masanori
From http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/hotspotfaq-138619.html : --- I would like java to default to -server. I have a lot of scripts which I cannot change (or do not want to change). Is there any way to do this? Since Java SE 5.0, with the exception of 32-bit Windows, the server VM will