IDE tools also picked up the trend !
http://itsacobolworld.blogspot.ca/2012/12/free-mainframe-cobol-developer-ide.html?m=1
Happy New Year Cobol fans !
:)
> If longevity is your top most concern, I have a suggestion here:
>
> http://www.itarchitectforumblog.com/content/application_development/
If longevity is your top most concern, I have a suggestion here:
http://www.itarchitectforumblog.com/content/application_development/cobol_dead_language_rising.html
And if you do not think it's all around us:
http://itsacobolworld.blogspot.ca/?m=1
This thing has been alive and kicking since the
If you don't get a flood of responses, I think it is because in this thread and
the one linked earlier that Leon Adler started, several different people have
explained evidence that Clojure on the JVM has had active development for five
years, it is open source, and no one knows of any evidence
That's unforeseeable because, that represents a very long time.
Having said that, this statement deserves a resay...
*The JVM will remain the primary target/platform for Clojure, while Oracle
remains good i.e. it doesn't get Barmy*.
What say the other people?
On Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:5
Having read the posts all over again, can I say that *the JVM will remain
the primary target/platform for Clojure, while Oracle remains good i.e. it
doesn't get Barmy *? Isn't that unforeseeable?
On Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:56:52 PM UTC+5:30, Sukh Singh wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have noti
You are quite wrong in asserting how our software is written.
Most of the clojure libs we refer to are layers around a Java lib.
When I state that we would have to move away from these in four months,
it includes these layers and a replacement for the Java libs.
On top of that we have isolation l
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Marko Topolnik wrote:
> If you had any optimized code relying on primitives/arrays, you'd probably
> be looking at a full rewrite to whatever gives performance on the new
> platform (this takes a lot of time and experience with the platform). The
> same applies to
>
> If I would have to move our 15,000 lines code base away from the JVM, I
> would
be able to do it in about four months. Most of that time would be spent
> finding
> replacements for some Java libs with a little interop remodeling.
>
You would also have to wait for each and every Clojure
OpenJDK is.
> Also: Isn't the JVM open source?
> > - Eric MacAdie
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Softaddicts
> wrote:
> > > Given the number of JVM implementations available, I think you can qualify
> > this
> > as a low risk for the near future.
> >
> > If I would have to move our 15,000
Also: Isn't the JVM open source?
- Eric MacAdie
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Softaddicts
wrote:
> Given the number of JVM implementations available, I think you can qualify
> this
> as a low risk for the near future.
>
> If I would have to move our 15,000 lines code base away from the JVM,
Given the number of JVM implementations available, I think you can qualify this
as a low risk for the near future.
If I would have to move our 15,000 lines code base away from the JVM, I would
be able to do it in about four months. Most of that time would be spent finding
replaçements for some Jav
It might help if you told us why you're asking this question. My guess
would be that you want to introduce Clojure, but you're afraid of
backing yourself into a corner if it begins to die off. If that is the
case, I think choosing to adopt is a safe choice (I've made the same
choice, and many other
On Dec 27, 2012 11:55 PM, "Sukh Singh" wrote:
> Is there any chance of clojure community abandoning the JVM as the
> primary plaform in the future?
Yes.
Who knows what machines lurk in the hearts of programmers?
--
Stephen Compall
If anyone in the MSA is online, you should watch this flythrough
'Always' is not the right term to ask this question. I have the same
question, but it could be asked with the better choice of words.
Leon
On Dec 27, 4:26 pm, Sukh Singh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have noticed that this question is randomly appearing in many minds, and
> it is frequently being asked, th
Is there any chance of clojure community abandoning the JVM as the
primary plaform in the future?
On Dec 27, 4:41 pm, Michael Klishin
wrote:
> 2012/12/27 Sukh Singh
>
> > From the above statements, can I say that
>
> > *the JVM will always likely, remain the primary Clojure implementation* ?
>
>
Maybe, Rich Hickey could answer this question...
On Dec 27, 4:41 pm, Michael Klishin
wrote:
> 2012/12/27 Sukh Singh
>
> > From the above statements, can I say that
>
> > *the JVM will always likely, remain the primary Clojure implementation* ?
>
> The answer is: nobody will give you a definitive
Maybe, Mr Rich Hickey could answer this
On Dec 27, 4:41 pm, Michael Klishin
wrote:
> 2012/12/27 Sukh Singh
>
> > From the above statements, can I say that
>
> > *the JVM will always likely, remain the primary Clojure implementation* ?
>
> The answer is: nobody will give you a definitive answ
Clojure is in many ways bound to the specifics of the Java platform:
- no tail-call optimization;
- adopts Java String and Java regex;
- special handling of Java primitives and arrays;
- and so on.
All the libraries already depend on those specifics, so it's not just the
language, bu
Hi,
I have noticed that this question is randomly appearing in many minds, and
it is frequently being asked, though there is no apparent reason on why it
is asked :/ or maybe people are unable to pen down the exact reasons, and
sad to say, even myself.
There are reasons for which I ask t
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