Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-29 Thread Meikel Brandmeyer (kotarak)
Hi, Am Montag, 29. Oktober 2012 02:20:42 UTC+1 schrieb Vinod Kurup: On Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:16:12 PM UTC-4, raschedh wrote: ... If you do not come back, you do not want it enough. ... Then a few extra clicks on the homepage shouldn't deter you. Sorry, couldn't resist :-)

clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
I'm using clojure.org a lot. Unfortunately navigating in it, since two weeks or so, was made worse. Is anyone feeling the same way ? Or I am just too stupid to use this webpage? What has been made worse?: In the old version, on the left edge, there were, under `Documentation', all the

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread Stuart Sierra
Hello Heinz, I'm sorry you're finding navigation difficult on Clojure.org. I agree that fewer clicks are better, but we (me, Stuart Halloway, and a few others) felt that the site was getting cluttered with too many links, which was confusing to newcomers. It would be nice if the Documentation

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
Hello Stuart, Thank you for your prompt reply. It would be nice if the Documentation link in the left-side column could expand into a list of sub-sections, but I don't know if the technology behind the site (Wikispaces) can support that right now. That would be very nice, indeed. The

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
P.S.: the compatibility shim for 0.1.x API functions were 2 days late. Already upgraded to the new API. Had I just waited 48 hours... ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Klishin
2012/10/29 raschedh rasche...@gmail.com I know that the following is a minority opinion: But this attention to newcomers is, albeit very honourable and of course economically necessary, bad. If growing the community and making it possible for more people to use Clojure at work, school or

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
Ah. I don't wanna go into flames here. And I *said*, I know this is the opinion of the majority. So relax. Nobody cares about what I think about this. Nobody is going to change anything, because of me. All I wanted to say is that this formulation: make sure newcomers have pretty good time. is

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
And these kids in school, and these people at work, you refer to: My argument is this: Those that come to clojure by themselves, because they can not help. Because they are so occupied with computers, so occupied with mastering everything, because they can not stop looking for beauty. They won't

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Klishin
2012/10/29 raschedh rasche...@gmail.com My argument is this: Those that come to clojure by themselves, because they can not help. Because they are so occupied with computers, so occupied with mastering everything, because they can not stop looking for beauty. They won't be stopped by

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread raschedh
Sorry but this is absolutely ridiculous. I know quite a few people who are interested in what Clojure has to offer but find it really hard to get in, not because of the language but because of the way Clojure documentation and tools are (experts-oriented). Some of them have given up, at

Re: clojure.org requires more clicks now

2012-10-28 Thread Vinod Kurup
On Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:16:12 PM UTC-4, raschedh wrote: ... If you do not come back, you do not want it enough. ... Then a few extra clicks on the homepage shouldn't deter you. Sorry, couldn't resist :-) Vinod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google