Cyclic Agents

2014-09-11 Thread Greg MacDonald
Hi Everyone, So how come two agents can't contain one another? The following code causes a StackOverflowError. In the real world things can't contain other things cyclically so I suspect that's why, but if someone could explain this better to me I'd appreciate it. :) - Greg (defn test-agents

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Arnout Roemers
I can understand why something like a clojure.lang.Volatile can be useful for some optimizations in the functions of standard library, but do they really need to become part of the public core API? Clojure is such a nice language because of the way state is handled at a higher level. Whenever I

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Jozef Wagner
FYI transients no longer enforce thread locality, and you may now call them from any thread [1]. More options for handling mutable state is not a bad thing (as Clojure is a practical language), though more discipline will be needed. Jozef [1] CLJ-1498 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Arnout

Re: Cyclic Agents

2014-09-11 Thread Carlo Zancanaro
Hey Greg, On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:30:11AM -0700, Greg MacDonald wrote: So how come two agents can't contain one another? The following code causes a StackOverflowError. In the real world things can't contain other things cyclically so I suspect that's why, but if someone could explain

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Frantisek Sodomka
Using my timings macro: https://gist.github.com/fsodomka/5890711 I am getting that: - creation derefing is 60% faster - swapping is 25% faster - resetting is about the same ;; volatile vs. atom ;; (report (timings 1e7 (deref (volatile! 42)) (deref (atom 42 ; |

Re: Cyclic Agents

2014-09-11 Thread Greg MacDonald
Oh that makes sense. Thanks a lot! On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Carlo Zancanaro carlozancan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Greg, On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:30:11AM -0700, Greg MacDonald wrote: So how come two agents can't contain one another? The following code causes a StackOverflowError.

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Frantisek Sodomka
And just creation is about 3x faster: (report (timings 1e7 (do (volatile! 42) nil) (do (atom 42) nil))) ; | :expr | :time | :ratio | :perc | ; |-+---++---| ; | (do (volatile! 42) nil) | 22.849963 |1.0 | 31.63 | ; |

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Linus Ericsson
The volatile construct seems very useful in some particular cases! I have been missing ugly-mutable variables for things such as certain types of heaps/queues or write-intensive, slightly probabilistic stuff where one missed write doesn't matter that much. For people who don't have a Java

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread dennis zhuang
May be the LongAdder in Java8 can beat AtomicLong :D http://blog.palominolabs.com/2014/02/10/java-8-performance-improvements-longadder-vs-atomiclong/ 2014-09-11 17:30 GMT+08:00 Linus Ericsson oscarlinuserics...@gmail.com: The volatile construct seems very useful in some particular cases! I

Re: Is Transit / core.async suitable for remote function invocation?

2014-09-11 Thread Shaun Robinson
Check out Sente. It meets all your requirements. EDN is used as a transport mechanism, with experimental support for Transit -- but these are really implementation details. Values sent from the client shows up in tact on the server, and vice versa. https://github.com/ptaoussanis/sente *

Lein feature to check for updates in dependencies?

2014-09-11 Thread Jonathon McKitrick
I thought for sure I saw this feature, but I can't find it. Isn't there a way to scan for possible updates to dependencies in a project? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note

Re: Lein feature to check for updates in dependencies?

2014-09-11 Thread Ray Miller
https://github.com/xsc/lein-ancient On 11 September 2014 14:41, Jonathon McKitrick jmckitr...@gmail.com wrote: I thought for sure I saw this feature, but I can't find it. Isn't there a way to scan for possible updates to dependencies in a project? -- You received this message because you

(Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Leon Grapenthin
Hi, I am looking for the slides of this talk because one can't see them in the video: http://vimeo.com/100518968 Thanks, Leon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note

Re: Lein feature to check for updates in dependencies?

2014-09-11 Thread Softaddicts
lein-ancient plug in Luc P. I thought for sure I saw this feature, but I can't find it. Isn't there a way to scan for possible updates to dependencies in a project? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send

Pause a go loop

2014-09-11 Thread Jeremy Vuillermet
Hello, here is my use case (defn replay [history] (go (doseq [millis history] (! (timeout millis)) (prn millis history is a vector of duration: [1000 2000 4000] Now I would like to pause this doseq. One

leiningen resources folder

2014-09-11 Thread Joc O'Connor
Hi, when I use (.getPath (clojure.java.io/resource readme.txt)) I get the file path to the correct file in the resources folder (or nil if it doesn't exist). However if I pass in an empty string it returns the path to the 'test' folder rather then 'resources'. I have tried setting setting the

Re: leiningen resources folder

2014-09-11 Thread Dave Ray
clojure.java.io/resource isn't specific to the resources folder. It just scans the classpath. Your classpath probably looks like test:src:resources or something so test wins. If there was a test/readme.txt file you'd also get that rather than resources/readme.txt. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Sep 11,

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
Usually Rich doesn't release his slides as he prefers for them to be consumed in the context of the talk. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:44:47 AM UTC-5, Leon Grapenthin wrote: Hi, I am looking for the slides of this talk because one can't see them in the video:

Re: Pause a go loop

2014-09-11 Thread Linus Ericsson
For instance you can use schejulure [1] or at-at [2] and make sure the scheduled function calls put an item (event) on the channel and then made the scheduler do the pausing work. All the listeners attached to the channel will receive the events at the time the scheduler releases them, and you

Re: Pause a go loop

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
You should never block a go loop other than by using a parking channel op (like !, !, etc). You probably instead want a control channel where you can send it a pause message telling it to block on the control channel until a resume message arrives. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:52:48 AM

Re: defrecord - CompilerException to referring record defined at other namespace

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
Yeah, dt/Record1 is not a thing that is referenceable. dt/-Record1 is a constructor function defrecord_example1.datatypes.Record1 is a class You can't use the ns alias dt to shorten the name of the class (those are different naming contexts). On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:44:18 PM

Re: [ANN] aprint (awesome print) released

2014-09-11 Thread Dave Sann
Is there an easy way to get the same compact layout but without the colour control codes? On Friday, 5 September 2014 07:50:10 UTC+10, Vladimir Bokov wrote: Hi folks, I got just tired to gazing into big amount of data and scroll 3-4 screens of my 13' laptop to grasp the structure, so I used

Re: [ANN] Clojure 1.7.0-alpha2

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:41:44 AM UTC-5, Arnout Roemers wrote: I can understand why something like a clojure.lang.Volatile can be useful for some optimizations in the functions of standard library, but do they really need to become part of the public core API? From my own

Re: [ANN] aprint (awesome print) released

2014-09-11 Thread Vladimir Bokov
Yes. I use clansi: (clansi.core/without-ansi (aprint issues)) Thanks for feedback, I updated README too четверг, 11 сентября 2014 г., 21:58:57 UTC+7 пользователь Dave Sann написал: Is there an easy way to get the same compact layout but without the colour control codes? On Friday, 5

[ANN] clojure client/wrapper for vowpal wabbit

2014-09-11 Thread Joachim De Beule
Dear list, I'd like to announce a pre-release of a clojure client/wrapper for vowpal wabbit, see engagor/clj-vw https://github.com/engagor/clj-vw and clj-vw 1.0.0-RC2 - Clojars https://clojars.org/engagor/clj-vw. All feedback/help welcome! Joachim. -- You received this message because

Re: Pause a go loop

2014-09-11 Thread Jeremy Vuillermet
Yes when I write block I meant park. My first idea was to use a control channel which have pause and resume input but then my question is ! control-channel would park until a value is available, what if I want to continue is there is nothing ? On Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:39:51 PM UTC+2,

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Fergal Byrne
Unfortunately the guys had a problem with the recording of the screen at euroClojure, so only the speakers' head-and-shoulder shots are in those videos. I made the video of my talk at home from the one originally recorded, by re-running the slides while listening to the audio and saving the

ClojureBridge Edinburgh - September 27th

2014-09-11 Thread Ali King
ClojureBridge is a one-day workshop run by Girl Geek Scotland aimed at introducing women to the Clojure language and functional programming. The event will be held at CodeBase in Edinburgh on September 27th (with installfest the night before), and is now open for booking!

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Leon Grapenthin
@Alex Miller: It would be great if an exception could be made. Again: The slides are not in the video. Consuming them in context of the talk is my intention by opening two windows (one with the video, one with the slides). Thanks, Leon. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:33:41 PM UTC+2, Alex

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Mark Engelberg
+1. I also was unable to follow the video without the slides. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Leon Grapenthin grapenthinl...@gmail.com wrote: @Alex Miller: It would be great if an exception could be made. Again: The slides are not in the video. Consuming them in context of the talk is my

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
The slides are now available at http://cdn.cognitect.com/presentations/2014/insidechannels.pdf. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:57:30 PM UTC-5, puzzler wrote: +1. I also was unable to follow the video without the slides. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Leon Grapenthin

Clojure terminology

2014-09-11 Thread jvanderhyde
I'm new to Clojure, but I'm teaching a course on it this year to undergrads. I'm having a little trouble with terminology, partly because Clojure departs from other languages (such as Scheme) on some terms (such as atom). I want to say something like this: A word is considered a var unless it

Re: Clojure terminology

2014-09-11 Thread blake
I'm having some trouble fleshing out the surrounding context, but I'll take a stab at this: I don't think word is the correct term to use. Do I mean symbol? Token, perhaps? Do I mean symbol instead of var? Yes. It may not be a var, after all. Is list better called a form or an s-expression?

pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread Sunil S Nandihalli
Hi , I am trying to compile a simple clj file which does nothing apart from requiring the pigpen name-space and it fails to compile with the following error. Can anybody help? Attempting to call unbound fn: #'instaparse.combinators-source/cat the full stack trace is here.

Re: Clojure terminology

2014-09-11 Thread jvanderhyde
Thank you for the help. What is the difference between a form and an s-expression? The Clojure Glossary https://github.com/clojuredocs/guides/blob/master/articles/language/glossary.md defines form as a valid s-expression. What is an example of an invalid s-expression? I'm not sure token is

Re: pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread Mark Engelberg
You're probably using Clojure 1.7.0 alpha 2, which introduced a new function called cat into the core namespace, which overlaps with a function in instaparse. A couple nights ago, I updated instaparse to version 1.3.4, with an update to deal with this change in alpha 2, but pigpen has not yet

Re: pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread mbossenbroek via Clojure
That's a weird one :) Couple of questions... What version of pigpen are you using? What are you using to compile produce that output? It doesn't look like lein or gradle output. What OS are you using? Do you have a full sample project to repro? Does your project have any other references?

Re: pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread 'Matt Bossenbroek' via Clojure
Just saw this response - disregard the questions I asked you on the pigpen support DL. I'll pull in the new instaparse get a new PigPen build out soonish (within a day or two). -Matt On Thursday, September 11, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Mark Engelberg wrote: You're probably using Clojure 1.7.0

Re: Clojure terminology

2014-09-11 Thread Alex Miller
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:49:43 PM UTC-5, jvanderhyde wrote: I'm new to Clojure, but I'm teaching a course on it this year to undergrads. I'm having a little trouble with terminology, partly because Clojure departs from other languages (such as Scheme) on some terms (such as

Re: Clojure terminology

2014-09-11 Thread Mark Engelberg
This whole discussion makes me think you're trying to teach Clojure in a Scheme-like way, which maybe isn't the best approach. In Clojure, it is rare to need quoted lists and symbols. Instead of 'hello, you would use :hello. Instead of '(1 2 3), you would use [1 2 3]. So the whole notion of

[ANN] lein-node-webkit-build

2014-09-11 Thread Wilker
Hi, For you guys that are working node-webkit and Clojurescript like I'm, I created this build tool that's similar in functionality with grunt-node-webkit-build. The library still very young and missing some features that maybe very important for some people (like being able to do a more precise

Re: pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread Sunil S Nandihalli
Thanks Mark for the response. That was very quick. Let me see if moving to clojure 1.6.0 fixes the issues. Sunil. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Mark Engelberg mark.engelb...@gmail.com wrote: You're probably using Clojure 1.7.0 alpha 2, which introduced a new function called cat into the

Re: pigpen newbie question

2014-09-11 Thread Sunil S Nandihalli
Thanks Mark and Matt, changing the version back to clojure version 1.6.0 fixed it. Sunil On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:05 AM, 'Matt Bossenbroek' via Clojure clojure@googlegroups.com wrote: Just saw this response - disregard the questions I asked you on the pigpen support DL. I'll pull in the

Re: defrecord - CompilerException to referring record defined at other namespace

2014-09-11 Thread Bin Li
Thanks a lot , Alex. So in order to working with defrecords , we have to use fully qualified name , or we can import them. But the :require is needed before I can import the 'defrecord' classes.. [... :refer :all] will not import the classes.. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:46:17 PM

Re: (Request) Rich Hickey's EuroClojure 2014 slides

2014-09-11 Thread Leon Grapenthin
Fantastic! Thank you very much. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:26:17 PM UTC+2, Alex Miller wrote: The slides are now available at http://cdn.cognitect.com/presentations/2014/insidechannels.pdf. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:57:30 PM UTC-5, puzzler wrote: +1. I also was unable to