Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Thanks, Mark. So leiningen has made a significant update lately? On Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49:32 PM UTC-5, Mark Rathwell wrote: These 4 should help you get from zero to a simple web app running on Heroku pretty quickly: https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/wiki/Upgrading So leiningen has made a significant update lately? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Thanks, Michael. Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? On Monday, November 12, 2012 9:26:25 PM UTC-5, Michael Klishin wrote: 2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmcki...@gmail.com javascript: - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? For small pure Clojure apps, probably none. - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? Compojure, Noir, clojure.java.jdbc, clojurewerkz.org libraries. See also http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/libraries_directory.html - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/basic_web_development.html is very new and not very complete but sounds like what you are looking for. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Hmm. Is this something I could work around, by paying for an extra dino during busy periods, then cutting back after the activity passes? On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:50:13 AM UTC-5, puzzler wrote: Only catch is that the free level of Heroku isn't very useful with Clojure. The app keeps going to sleep, and the first person to hit your app will have a noticeably lengthy wait because Clojure takes a long time to start up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
cemerick made a screencast of how to get started with Clojure, which takes you through getting started with the tools, and making a web app. It is probably a great place to start: http://cemerick.com/2012/05/02/starting-clojure/ For details on the Clojure web stack, I really like this guide: http://brehaut.net/blog/2011/ring_introduction Note that on Clojure the web stack is made up of a bunch of small libraries. They are almost all based on ring. The guide above describes the common choices. -- Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:26:18 AM UTC-5, Jonathon McKitrick wrote: Thanks, Mark. So leiningen has made a significant update lately? Yes, but my understanding is that most folks have already upgraded (or have plans to upgrade --- thus the upgrading guide) to lein 2. I suggest using the latest preview release of lein 2 (which is also what's recommended at leiningen.org). ---John On Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49:32 PM UTC-5, Mark Rathwell wrote: These 4 should help you get from zero to a simple web app running on Heroku pretty quickly: https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/wiki/Upgrading So leiningen has made a significant update lately? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmckitr...@gmail.com Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? Noir is built on top of Compojure. I guess just use what you like better. I don't think you will use Ring directly initially. So get familiar with it as you need to, the API is tiny. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? Noir is higher level than Compojure, and usually easier for new people to jump into, but not always as flexible, functional or composable. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jonathon McKitrick jmckitr...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Michael. Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? On Monday, November 12, 2012 9:26:25 PM UTC-5, Michael Klishin wrote: 2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmcki...@gmail.com - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? For small pure Clojure apps, probably none. - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? Compojure, Noir, clojure.java.jdbc, clojurewerkz.org libraries. See also http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/libraries_directory.html - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/basic_web_development.html is very new and not very complete but sounds like what you are looking for. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
It was helpful for me to start from the ground up: Got familiar with ring, then compojure, hiccup, noir, etc. Getting familiar a library at a time prepared me better for managing the more comprehensive frameworks when it came time to customization. FWIW. On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:20:23 AM UTC+6, Mark Rathwell wrote: Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? Noir is higher level than Compojure, and usually easier for new people to jump into, but not always as flexible, functional or composable. On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jonathon McKitrick jmcki...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks, Michael. Should I dive into Ring as well? What about Compojure versus Noir? On Monday, November 12, 2012 9:26:25 PM UTC-5, Michael Klishin wrote: 2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmcki...@gmail.com - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? For small pure Clojure apps, probably none. - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? Compojure, Noir, clojure.java.jdbc, clojurewerkz.org libraries. See also http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/libraries_directory.html - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/basic_web_development.htmlis very new and not very complete but sounds like what you are looking for. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Hi all, I've heard many good things about clojure, and I'm finally taking the plunge. I've been using Hunchentoot on SBCL for several years, and I've finally decided it's time to move to a current lisp with a proven platform and (from what I have heard) a great community. I have a project currently in php that receives POST data, saves it to a db, and then serves report data via JSON. It's a dead easy concept. The catch is, I've committed to moving to clojure on heroku, and I need to quickly learn the language and the best tools I need to do the job with a short learning curve. I've found a number of tutorials and intros that I'll start with, but I'm open to suggestions: - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? - Is it simple enough to use SLIME (which I'm very comfortable with) and then push to production on heroku? - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
These 4 should help you get from zero to a simple web app running on Heroku pretty quickly: https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/wiki/Upgrading https://github.com/technomancy/swank-clojure https://github.com/kingtim/nrepl.el https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/clojure-web-application Some other background you will probably want to start with: https://github.com/technomancy/leiningen/blob/master/doc/TUTORIAL.md https://github.com/weavejester/compojure/wiki http://webnoir.org/ And the Clojure Doc Site is quickly turning into an amazing resource: http://clojure-doc.org/ On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Jonathon McKitrick jmckitr...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I've heard many good things about clojure, and I'm finally taking the plunge. I've been using Hunchentoot on SBCL for several years, and I've finally decided it's time to move to a current lisp with a proven platform and (from what I have heard) a great community. I have a project currently in php that receives POST data, saves it to a db, and then serves report data via JSON. It's a dead easy concept. The catch is, I've committed to moving to clojure on heroku, and I need to quickly learn the language and the best tools I need to do the job with a short learning curve. I've found a number of tutorials and intros that I'll start with, but I'm open to suggestions: - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? - Is it simple enough to use SLIME (which I'm very comfortable with) and then push to production on heroku? - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmckitr...@gmail.com - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? For small pure Clojure apps, probably none. - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? Compojure, Noir, clojure.java.jdbc, clojurewerkz.org libraries. See also http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/libraries_directory.html - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/basic_web_development.html is very new and not very complete but sounds like what you are looking for. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Thanks Mark and Michael, I thought I had an extensive list of Clojure resources, but quite clearly not. :) Kinley On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:26:25 AM UTC+6, Michael Klishin wrote: 2012/11/13 Jonathon McKitrick jmcki...@gmail.com javascript: - Any caveats I should be aware of running clojure on heroku? For small pure Clojure apps, probably none. - What libraries should I become familiar with for straightforward web apps? Compojure, Noir, clojure.java.jdbc, clojurewerkz.org libraries. See also http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/libraries_directory.html - What tutorials would get me up and running ASAP? I'm currently an intermediate SBCL user. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/basic_web_development.html is very new and not very complete but sounds like what you are looking for. -- MK http://github.com/michaelklishin http://twitter.com/michaelklishin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
Re: First foray into clojure - questions for new project
Only catch is that the free level of Heroku isn't very useful with Clojure. The app keeps going to sleep, and the first person to hit your app will have a noticeably lengthy wait because Clojure takes a long time to start up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
