Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-05 Thread Daniel Werner
On 4 January 2011 19:20, Jon Seltzer seltzer1...@gmail.com wrote: Why not update the funding from simple donation to a purchase of clojure/core software like a refined version of the eclipse plugin or some other incentive based approach?  I think I understand why rich might find 'donation'

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-05 Thread Sergey Didenko
I completely understand the Rich desire to keep flexibility and fun in Clojure development. And I think it is important for the success of Clojure. As for me a donation is much more about what is already done and enforces little if any obligations. I hope Rich will accept them from people who

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Rich Hickey
On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: In Dec 2009, Rich asked the community to step up and support core development -- and the community came through. I'm interested in clojure, but not using it professionally yet. I was wondering if funding for 2011 has already been worked out,

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
I was going to continue the funding effort, but have decided against it for the reasons given here: http://clojure.org/funding Many thanks to those who participated, I donated in 2010 and was going to donate for 2011 in a week's time. I never had any sense of entitlement -- for a lot of

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Mike Meyer
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:31:13 -0500 Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: In Dec 2009, Rich asked the community to step up and support core development -- and the community came through. I'm interested in clojure, but not using it

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Laurent PETIT
2011/1/4 Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: In Dec 2009, Rich asked the community to step up and support core development -- and the community came through. I'm interested in clojure, but not using it professionally yet. I was wondering if

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Daniel Werner
Hi Rich, On 4 January 2011 06:31, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to continue the funding effort, but have decided against it for the reasons given here: Regarding the entitlement [...] as to what I do with my time, I believe I know of one of the discussions that lead you

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Rich Hickey
On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Daniel Werner wrote: Hi Rich, On 4 January 2011 06:31, Rich Hickey richhic...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to continue the funding effort, but have decided against it for the reasons given here: Regarding the entitlement [...] as to what I do with my time, I

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Luke VanderHart
For what it's worth, I am really glad of the position Rich is taking on a roadmap and Clojure's future development. I would much rather Clojure remained fresh, innovative and agile, and that it continues to offer unexpected, delightful new features and abilities. It can't really do that if Rich

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Mark Engelberg
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Luke VanderHart luke.vanderh...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, I am really glad of the position Rich is taking on a roadmap and Clojure's future development. I would much rather Clojure remained fresh, innovative and agile, and that it continues to offer

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread MiltondSilva
Why must many pay for some? I'm certain that of all the contributions you had, there are only an handful of people who don't understand what a donation is. So with that in mind what is the rational for this kind of action? I mean, you never said that if we donated you would implement our ideas

Re: Funding 2011?

2011-01-04 Thread Jon Seltzer
Why not update the funding from simple donation to a purchase of clojure/core software like a refined version of the eclipse plugin or some other incentive based approach? I think I understand why rich might find 'donation' approach a bit uncomfortable. On Jan 4, 2:24 pm, Mark Engelberg

Re: Funding 2011?

2010-12-23 Thread Rich Hickey
On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: In Dec 2009, Rich asked the community to step up and support core development -- and the community came through. I'm interested in clojure, but not using it professionally yet. I was wondering if funding for 2011 has already been worked out,

Funding 2011?

2010-11-28 Thread Jeremy Dunck
In Dec 2009, Rich asked the community to step up and support core development -- and the community came through. I'm interested in clojure, but not using it professionally yet. I was wondering if funding for 2011 has already been worked out, or if it is an open question? I'd be happy to