Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-21 Thread Bastien
Samuel Aaron samaa...@gmail.com writes: To me at least, this is a worthwhile endeavour. It certainly is! Here is a quick intro to Overtone with Emacs and Org: http://bzg.fr/emacs-org-babel-overtone-intro.html ... as a thank you for this great expression medium. -- Bastien -- -- You

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Morin
On Dec 19, 2013, at 18:15, Sean Corfield wrote: If you think that discussion is inappropriate for this list (and I agree - it is), then why do you think this discussion is appropriate: Can we get back to talking about folks who are using Clojure to make a positive impact? It seems to me

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-20 Thread Rich Morin
My initial attempts at finding an article failed, so I didn't list one on my initial posting. However, but it turns out that Tim O'Reilly has a blog entry (from early 2009) on this topic: Work on Stuff that Matters: First Principles

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-20 Thread Samuel Aaron
I personally believe that Overtone is a worthwhile project. Whilst I totally want to see more projects that help us at least maintain and ideally improve the harmony of the world, I also value projects that dare to take us in new directions. With Overtone, I'm attempting to ask the question

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Phillip Lord
Rich Morin r...@cfcl.com writes: This makes me wonder about the number of Clojure-driven projects that meet Tim O'Reilly's notions of doing something worthwhile: “Pursue something so important that even if you fail, the world is better off with you having tried.” I never understood

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Daniel Higginbotham
I have done several things in my life where, at least, I am sure that the world would not have been better off if I hadn't tried. I think this is enough to hope for. I'm fooling around with Weather Jerk (http://www.weatherjerk.com/) in my spare time. It uh... solves the problem of

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Rich Morin
On Dec 19, 2013, at 02:36, Phillip Lord wrote: I never understood how flog books about technology came into that category. The books are simply an artifact and technology is only one domain. Tim has spent decades promoting the interchange of well-chosen ideas. For example, although Christine

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar
Being acquired by Monsanto does not invalidate The Climate Corporation's work, which I find extremely exciting and valuable. In fact, why would their work be worthwhile by your worthiness definition? They are just insurance sellers, after all. Clojure itself is the ultimate worthwhile project.

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Ben Wolfson
Why is a programming language---which one would think is in itself neutral, being a tool that can be put to a variety of uses---more obviously worthwhile (let alone the ultimate worthwhile thing!) than sellers of insurance, who, after all, do, if they're honest, insulate people from what would

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Rich Morin
On Dec 19, 2013, at 16:02, Bruno Kim Medeiros Cesar wrote: Being acquired by Monsanto does not invalidate The Climate Corporation's work, which I find extremely exciting and valuable. In fact, why would their work be worthwhile by your worthiness definition? They are just insurance sellers,

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Rich Morin r...@cfcl.com wrote: I have no argument with The Climate Corporation's business model; my problems are with Monsanto. That said, I don't want to dive off into that discussion. In fact, my comment about them should probably have been left out of my

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Baranosky
Yep, positive impact is pretty much entirely opinion-based. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Rich Morin r...@cfcl.com wrote: I have no argument with The Climate Corporation's business model; my problems are with

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread John Wiseman
Suggestions of endeavors using clojure for something worthwhile itself seems like an entirely worthwhile discussion if people can resist the temptation to debate what worthwhile means and to disagree with other people's concept of worthwhile. For example, here's a recipe for a useful discussion:

Re: Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Baranosky
Fair enough :) On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:09 PM, John Wiseman jjwise...@gmail.com wrote: Suggestions of endeavors using clojure for something worthwhile itself seems like an entirely worthwhile discussion if people can resist the temptation to debate what worthwhile means and to disagree

Who is doing something worthwhile in Clojure?

2013-12-18 Thread Rich Morin
I found Doug Selph's talk at Clojure/conj to be quite inspiring, in that he is clearly (IMHO) doing something that is of great potential value to humanity. I used to have similar feelings about The Climate Corporation, but their recent acquisition by Monsanto troubles me. This makes me wonder