Hi Devin,
On Thursday, August 4, 2011 5:14:19 AM UTC+2, Devin Walters (devn) wrote:
On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:
inc
IMHO there are three types of people coming to Clojure
1. Java Programmers
2. Old-school lispers
3. all the other, who just want to
On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:
inc
IMHO there are three types of people coming to Clojure
Java Programmers
Old-school lispers
all the other, who just want to try (and possibly follow the examples in a
tutorial or book)
I humbly disagree. All of these groups
2011/7/30 nchurch nchubr...@gmail.com
But my question is : is it ready yet ?
As a quick and simple way to get a REPL and edit code it seems to work
fine. I added a sentence about its newness just so people would be
aware of it...
OK. I can really see it fill in the gaps, as I said
Here's a tutorial on getting started with Clooj:
http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/getting+started+with+Clooj
If this looks good to people, I'll try to get permission to reorganize
the Getting Started docs a little.
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Sorry to make things look different than the apparent consensus of the
participants to this thread, but isn't it a little bit too prematurate to
put that pressure on Clooj ?
I understand the desire to have Clooj for filling the gap.
But my question is : is it ready yet ?
2011/7/29 nchurch
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to make things look different than the apparent consensus of the
participants to this thread, but isn't it a little bit too prematurate to
put that pressure on Clooj ?
I understand the desire to have Clooj for
On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Sorry to make things look different than the apparent consensus of the
participants to this thread, but isn't it a little bit too prematurate to
put that pressure on
inc
IMHO there are three types of people coming to Clojure
1. Java Programmers
2. Old-school lispers
3. all the other, who just want to try (and possibly follow the examples
in a tutorial or book)
For the first two groups the obstacles and interest can probably be sorted
out and
But my question is : is it ready yet ?
As a quick and simple way to get a REPL and edit code it seems to work
fine. I added a sentence about its newness just so people would be
aware of it...if the author prefers no tutorial so far, then of course
it should be taken down.
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Hello Stu,
I think the clear no options getting started path should include a
tutorial and focus on the repl and using a *generic* text editor. A
downloadable archive file (zip and tar) that included things like
jline, clojure jars, and some scripts (.sh *and* .bat) to just start
it would allow
Hi,
may I humbly suggest to come up with the most common user stories and put
links to pages for those users right after the introductory paragraph. The
typical scenarios will probably combine a few things, e.g. setting up maven
and CCW. Further down the page the links to the detailed topics
I'm a total newbie with Clojure/Lisp/Java/Cake/Lein/Emacs etc.
But I want to help translating to Spanish.
If you tell me where can I find instructions to do it I will with
pleasure.
By the way, I've been fighting with Emacs/Clojure and everything else.
It has been frustrating but I've learn a lot
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
Under 2) would be a guide for setting up Emacs (immediately divided
into Mac, Windows, Linux). At the end would be a list of alternative
options: Eclipse, Netbeans, IntelliJ, etc.
No.
No, no, no, no, no!
That will kill
I do not think we should attempt a recommended IDE (not even Clooj).
We should offer a path for all existing IDEs / editors.
...
Use an editor not listed here? Try Clooj
(i.e., use this as a simple catch-all if we haven't covered what you
already used today).
That's one way of
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:28 AM, pmbauer paul.michael.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
+1 on clooj.
One click and you have a working build environment, REPL, and REPL-aware
editor.
https://github.com/downloads/arthuredelstein/clooj/clooj-0.1.5-standalone.jar
This URL is somewhat unfortunate. For some
Yep, Github URLs suck like that.
FWIW this is probably close what you're looking for:
https://github.com/arthuredelstein/clooj/downloads
Ambrose
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ClojureScript release has changed things now and I guess that getting
started with ClojureScript will probably change as it gets closer to a
release. But anyway, I suggest a getting started page along these lines:
* *Meet Clojure*
- Try Clojure online http://try-clojure.org/ or on your
I just thought - Java Webstart based clooj direct from try-clojure.org.
Mark
On 25/07/2011, at 6:51 PM, pmbauer wrote:
For usability, nothing beats the single-click. In seconds, Clooj gives her a
one-stop-shop.
So I see Clooj as something worth putting right along with try-clojure.org.
It
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, pmbauer paul.michael.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
But think of the casual dev wanting to know what Clojure and a typical
Clojure toolchain can do for her ASAP.
I find it hard to imagine a casual dev that doesn't already have a
preferred editor - but I'm certainly not
I just thought - Java Webstart based clooj direct from try-clojure.org.
On 25/07/2011, at 6:51 PM, pmbauer wrote:
For usability, nothing beats the single-click. In seconds, Clooj gives her a
one-stop-shop.
So I see Clooj as something worth putting right along with try-clojure.org.
It not
On 25 July 2011 09:41, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, pmbauer paul.michael.ba...@gmail.com
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[...]
That's why I would give Clooj some prominence rather than burying it at the
bottom of the decision tree.
Well, then put it at the top with
* *Meet Clojure*
That's also an upcoming book on Clojure:
http://meetclj.raynes.me/
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I just thought - Java Webstart based clooj direct from try-clojure.org.
On 25/07/2011, at 6:51 PM, pmbauer wrote:
For usability, nothing beats the single-click. In seconds, Clooj gives her a
one-stop-shop.
So I see Clooj as something worth putting right along with try-clojure.org.
It not
On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:11 AM, Michael Wood wrote:
On 25 July 2011 09:41, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, pmbauer paul.michael.ba...@gmail.com
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[...]
That's why I would give Clooj some prominence rather than burying it at the
bottom of the
How about making the main suggestion be clooj instead, with emacs,
eclipse, netbeans in the list of alternative options? :)
Sounds like consensus around Clooj. Released on July 18th, top option
on July 25th! Things move at lightspeed around here
The one thing I want to say about Emacs is
IMO, it's a very good idea to give much more accent on the easiest options
for newcomers.
Other than not recommending Emacs, do people think that the overall
organization I suggested is a good idea? I should reiterate that
other information needs to be accessible; for now I'd just like to see
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:03 AM, nchurch nchubr...@gmail.com wrote:
Other than not recommending Emacs, do people think that the overall
organization I suggested is a good idea?
Yes.
for now I'd just like to see
us not presenting people with twelve options as their first view of
Getting
The community getting started page could be much better. In particular,
people have opined that there should be a clear, no-choices-
to-make path For Newbies section.Help welcome!
I just got edit privileges on dev.clojure and am eager work on it.
How do people want to see Getting Started on
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:28 PM, nchurch nchubr...@gmail.com wrote:
The community getting started page could be much better. In particular,
people have opined that there should be a clear, no-choices-
to-make path For Newbies section.Help welcome!
I just got edit privileges on dev.clojure
+1, as I went through the same process. Emacs should be the option for the
brave ones who already wrote their first helloworld.clj.
sent from my mobile device
On Jul 25, 2011 6:14 AM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:28 PM, nchurch nchubr...@gmail.com wrote:
The
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Ken Wesson kwess...@gmail.com wrote:
How about making the main suggestion be clooj instead, with emacs,
eclipse, netbeans in the list of alternative options? :)
+1! I'd be embarrassed trying to sell clojure to a newbie with anything
else.
Clean and simple,
+1 on clooj.
One click and you have a working build environment, REPL, and REPL-aware
editor.
https://github.com/downloads/arthuredelstein/clooj/clooj-0.1.5-standalone.jar
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I checked the great manual 113 Design Guidelines for Homepage Usability
from Jakob Nielsen and here are my thoughts about the main page (clojure.org
):
1) It's misleading that some links in the left pane are underlined (API,
Recent changes, Libraries, Community) while others are not.
2) It's
I am working through a few of the pages on clojure.org with two goals:
(1) remove or fix anything that is outdated or incorrect
(2) move to the community site (dev.clojure.org) things that should be
maintained by the community.
As a first pass, I have trimmed
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Stuart Halloway
stuart.hallo...@gmail.comwrote:
I am working through a few of the pages on clojure.org with two goals:
(1) remove or fix anything that is outdated or incorrect
I really like how minimal that is now.
A quick suggestion: shouldn't the Copyright
I am working through a few of the pages on clojure.org with two goals:
(1) remove or fix anything that is outdated or incorrect
I really like how minimal that is now.
A quick suggestion: shouldn't the Copyright date be updated too?
Yuo. Fixed, thanks.
Stu
Stuart Halloway
Stuart Halloway stuart.hallo...@gmail.com writes:
As a first pass, I have trimmed http://clojure.org/getting_started, and quite
clearly linked out to http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started for
advice on tools, IDEs, etc.
That's a huge improvement; glad to see it finally getting
On Jul 22, 3:32 pm, Phil Hagelberg p...@hagelb.org wrote:
Stuart Halloway stuart.hallo...@gmail.com writes:
As a first pass, I have trimmedhttp://clojure.org/getting_started, and quite
clearly linked out tohttp://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Startedfor
advice on tools, IDEs, etc.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Stuart Halloway
stuart.hallo...@gmail.com wrote:
I am working through a few of the pages on clojure.org with two goals:
(1) remove or fix anything that is outdated or incorrect
(2) move to the community site (dev.clojure.org) things that should be
maintained by
I am working through a few of the pages on clojure.org with two goals:
(1) remove or fix anything that is outdated or incorrect
(2) move to the community site (dev.clojure.org) things that should be
maintained by the community.
As a first pass, I have trimmed
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