On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I agree it's a nice model but wouldn't set N to a very high value.
Right, I agree with that. In the same way that going to a restaurant
with 500 menu items is overwhelming.
Also, I worry a bit about the QA
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Sandro red Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
Short answer: Yes, I think so. Longer answer: It varies a bit. Most of the
core design has been implemented for ~1.5 years, and I and others
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
- Create image using ImageFactory (and initialize ostree in %post)
This is possible, but in the realm of options which range from:
1) Hack up current rpm-ostree direct .qcow2 generation code
2) ImageFactory with
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Don Zickus dzic...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 08:16:00AM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
That's the point, we want a reasonably small package while still
providing the required functionality. Not sure how providing a fixed
size number is helping
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:04:56AM -0500, Don Zickus wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 08:38:44AM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 17:37:42 +0100
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
in general
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:33:47AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
Right. When I said I had kernel-core and kernel-drivers, I wasn't
being theoretical. I already did the work in the spec file to split
it into kernel-core and kernel-drivers. The kernel package becomes a
metapackage that requires
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:01PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
It _could_ be as simple as just shipping with docker and maybe etcd, but
we could make some other changes too. For example, we could drop
cloud-init and just have a minimal metadata service.
Not sure we want to use different
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I think it will eventually be pretty useful for servers, although
without a
good layer on top, we would just be, to extend your analogy, forcing
everyone to buy their groceries from a restaurant, and making them
On 03/06/2014 10:42 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:01PM +0900, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
It _could_ be as simple as just shipping with docker and maybe etcd, but
we could make some other changes too. For example, we could drop
cloud-init and just have a minimal metadata
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Don Zickus dzic...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:55AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
If it's _necessary_, that's one thing. I've yet to really see any data
backing up necessity on
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote:
How would this go over for people coming from $other_images that have
cloud-init and expect to use it? If I understand correctly, you're
saying their existing stuff isn't going to work well w/Fedora even if
we
have
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:33:47AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
Right. When I said I had kernel-core and kernel-drivers, I wasn't
being theoretical. I already did the work in the spec file to split
it into
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 05:35:41PM +, Colin Walters wrote:
It would require teasing apart some things in the current code, but
quite doable. I think on my priority list this is after Anaconda
and some other things though.
If we want it for F21, FESCo would like to know as soon as
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:10:46PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
I think Josh is mostly there. He has 58MB + 5M vmlinuz + similar?
firmwre.
Firmware is owned by linux-firmware, not the kernel package. I didn't
include it in my kernel numbers for that reason.
Currently, this is required by the
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I would love to assist with this.
Kindly let me know how I can be of best use.
Kind Regards,
On 03/05/2014 02:58 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote:
Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need Automatic
Smoketests on Image Build [0]
Testing
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:04AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't
built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once
https://github.com/cgwalters/min-metadata-service/issues/2 is implemented,
we can focus
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
That brings up a question though, how often would cloud expect to do a
yum update of individual packages as opposed to just updating the
entire image? If
On 03/06/2014 12:51 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 10:58:04AM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
I am half-minded to make the proposal that we drop cloud-init. We haven't
built up a big library of cloud-init examples for Fedora, and once
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 12:56:06PM -0600, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
Alternately, here's a crazy idea: the min-metadata service could detect
if userdata is in a syntax it doesn't understand and fire off a helper
script. That helper script could then install and exec cloud-init.
That sounds like it
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014 20:58:32 +0900
Sandro \red\ Mathys r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Heads-up: I've taken ownership for the external need Automatic
Smoketests on Image Build [0]
Testing an image takes time and resources, and with several images, it
takes several times that. Since that simply
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 06:44:29PM -0700, Tim Flink wrote:
To go into a bit more detail, the taskotron bits which would be
required would depend a little bit on what comes out of the cloud image
generation.
I'm assuming the following:
- the image creation process will generate a fedmsg upon
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:00 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Sandro red Mathys
r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 17:37:42 +0100
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:10 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Don Zickus dzic...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:32:55AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 11:02:47AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
If it's _necessary_,
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 01:14:54PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
That brings up a question though, how often would cloud expect to do a
yum
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