Re: Cloud Test Overview

2014-10-08 Thread milanisko k
Fair enough. Not sure about the Taskotron features (plan) but our harness already supports couple of things which are a must for the load we've been facing wr. images validation: - parallel instances handling - parallel test cases execution - test case dependencies - remote (bash) code execution

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 12:26:43AM -0400, James Antill wrote: At least one view of the model is that you have atomic upgrades, and thus. rollback/downgrades. This fits perfectly with the f21/f21/f23 release model (although rpm-ostree rebase is very surprising when it deletes your refs, you

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 12:26 AM, James Antill wrote: At least one view of the model is that you have atomic upgrades, and thus. rollback/downgrades. This fits perfectly with the f21/f21/f23 release model (although rpm-ostree rebase is very surprising when it deletes your refs, you can still

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 10/08/2014 08:55 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: I agree. And since we're making the packages from which the Atomic versions will be composed, what's the _downside_ of making releases available as distinct releases? Since it's produced from RPMs that we're making automatically, isn't it basically

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2014-10-08 at 00:41 -0400, Michael Hampton wrote: On 10/08/2014 12:26 AM, James Antill wrote: I would also disagree strongly that RHEL will ever follow this model. I would bet a huge amount of money that if customers are using the official trees at all then enough of them will be

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 09:19:41AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: I see a few downsides: * Having to test multiple releases. Not sure that quite fits under very little effort. (Maybe someday when we have automated testing, that will be different.) I'm not sure that follows... we'll have to test

Re: Atomic Updates - do we follow traditional model or a new one?

2014-10-08 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On 10/08/2014 09:36 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 09:19:41AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: I see a few downsides: * Having to test multiple releases. Not sure that quite fits under very little effort. (Maybe someday when we have automated testing, that will be different.)

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

2014-10-08 Thread hguemar
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2014-10-10 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Standing meeting for the Fedora Cloud Workgroup. Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar//meeting/482/

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Cloud Workgroup

2014-10-08 Thread Dusty Mabe
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 05:00:02PM +, hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Cloud Workgroup on 2014-10-10 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC Wasn't there an action item to find a new day/time for the meeting? Do you guys want to fill in some times