Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 12:58:05PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > What this is sounding like is a huge discrepancy between what the > Council, PRD group, etc. think we should be doing and what we can > actually do. > > Given that, I think I should tell the designer to push the design > changes back.

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 11:13:02AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > It's not that simple - this is a messy topic. What I think this > is about isn't delaying or blocking - it's *prioritization*. If > an issue comes up in Anaconda or systemd or whatever > that affects the "next AH", we need those

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 09:46:44AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > We need to be clear on the difference between considering it important > for Atomic images to be ready on release day, and being "release > blockers." The latter has a very specific meaning as Adam W can > attest. Being a

Re: Fedora 25 atomic images?

2016-10-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 04:05:24PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > As Dennis said, there are Atomic images produced nightly as part of the > *regular* Branched composes. So you don't see any Fedora-Atomic-25- > (foo) fedmsgs because there are no Fedora-Atomic-25 composes. There are > just

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Josh Berkus
On 10/04/2016 11:21 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The corollary is that if the people who are supposed to be working and > caring for an edition are not doing the work already, making it > release blocking doesn't magically fix it. What happens instead is > that people who are doing that work

Re: Current Fedora 25 Atomic images are failing to boot

2016-10-04 Thread Jonathan Lebon
Just an update on this. We're passed the kernel panic issue now that dracut-fips was backed out, but we're now getting a reboot loop due to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290659 - Original Message - > > > On 10/03/2016 02:47 AM, Trishna Guha wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28,

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 10/04/2016 08:13 AM, Colin Walters wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 09:46 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> > >>> > I think mattdm would agree we don't want to potentially, >>> > *indefinitely* block a six-month release

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 October 2016 at 13:59, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 10/04/2016 08:13 AM, Colin Walters wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 09:46 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> > >>> > I think mattdm would agree we don't want to potentially, >>> > *indefinitely* block a six-month release with

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Josh Berkus
On 10/04/2016 08:13 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 09:46 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > >> > I think mattdm would agree we don't want to potentially, >> > *indefinitely* block a six-month release with a deliverable that can >> > be fixed and re-released in two weeks. >

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016, at 09:46 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I think mattdm would agree we don't want to potentially, > *indefinitely* block a six-month release with a deliverable that can > be fixed and re-released in two weeks. It's not that simple - this is a messy topic. What I think this

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:14:43AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Friday, September 30, 2016 5:01:52 PM CDT Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > > On 09/30/2016 01:11 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:35 AM,

Fedora cloud status update

2016-10-04 Thread Benson Muite
Hi, Can you take a minute to give feed back on Fedora cloud talking points here - hope have picked most relevant points and no errors, but corrections welcome: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points#Fedora_Cloud Thanks, Benson ___

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, September 30, 2016 5:01:52 PM CDT Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Josh Berkus wrote: > > On 09/30/2016 01:11 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Matthew Miller > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On Thu,

Re: Current Fedora 25 Atomic images are failing to boot

2016-10-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday, October 3, 2016 1:16:04 PM CDT Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 02:57 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > >> There is a kernel panic happening early in boot. Here is the serial > > > >> console log from one

Re: Cloud and Server Q

2016-10-04 Thread Kushal Das
On 30/09/16, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 09/30/2016 02:01 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > 16:44:56 Cloud base image is the only blocking deliverable. > > 16:44:59 Atomic is not. > > > > I realize this WG is in the middle of rebooting itself, but to have > > clearly conflicting information from the WG

Re: Request for review of blocking deliverables for Fedora 25

2016-10-04 Thread Kushal Das
On 16/09/16, Jan Kurik wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, at 04:14 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> may I request any feedback on this topic, and/or adding this topic to > >> the next Cloud WG meeting agenda